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READ NOW!! E-MAIL from Ttokkyo's General Manager!!

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MaxBiceps

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dear sir:
Thanks for your Email, we really want to keep the high quality standars in
all of our products, and we need to know if they are really fakes, and if
some people in TJ is selling this, about 18 months ago we use the securite
holograms, but not anymore since one year ago, also all of our 10 ml vials
(nandrolone, boldenon, cypiuonate) "MUST" have a "TK" in the bottom of the
bottles, this is special manufacture for our company from Vitro company, the
distributor in TJ could be trustable, and the product coul be kept in bad
storage, but the product are OK in potency.
The white flip-off with our logo is West Company which is also special
production "ONLY" for our company.
Coul you please let me know the place you bougth the products, in order to
follow this situation, you and the rest of the board members anre the only
persons who can help us to determine and to find out the fakes and the
peoplewhos is doing this.
The badmouthing people from our competitors talk about underdosed, but
please let me know the product you need to send you the results from our QC,
and if its need reports from the external and independent lab, we must prove
that the products are the best in market now and in the future.
With my best regards, I hope to hear from you soon.
Dr. Molina
General Manager.
 
With all the bad press ttokkyo's been getting lately about fakes, etc, this e-mail is quite comforting.
Apparently they stopped making holograms a year ago, but the 10 ml vials MUST have TK in raised letters on the bottom of the vial. The bottles are made especially for their company.

I guess Ttokkyo is still #1 after-all!!!!:D :D :D
 
gorilla_boy said:
I guess that explains why I wasn't happy with my last cycle. My fucking deca was fake.
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How so? No TK on the bottom? No holograms are ok, but no "TK" on bottom of bottle is a fake. Was it shrinkwrapped?
 
acneman said:
hey max im checking my sh*t now stand by
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What's up my pimply friend!! Long time no see...Spending too much time hanging out with rodents?:D Check your karma, bro. i gave you some for your last post:)
 
Hmmm, I have bottles that have the TK on the bottom, and some don't. All the bottles have a raised line in the center of the bottom, and a few have have a TK on one side of the line, and two other letters on the other side. Others just have the raised line with two raised letters (not TK).

This means I have fakes???
 
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ok my nandrolona had a 52 or 25 on the bottom with a double headded arrow on the underneath or on top if its 52

25
<----->
<----->
52
and the blue flip top it was purchased in mexico nuevo laredo lot# Lotte: N-0222 shrink wrapped

the testonon purchased from same guy has the white fliptop and nothing on the bottom (5ml bottel) also shrinkwrapped Lote no. 002

testonon had square holo seal nandrolona had round holoseal
 
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JG1 and acneman, you guys sound like you have fakes.
First off, the blue tops are definitely fake. Second, ALL ttokkyo 10 ml bottles should have a raised "TK" of the bottom of the bottle.
I will e-mail him again and find out what's up.
 
Mine came shrink wrapped with the hologram on the box. Shit, I'm supposed to take a shot tonight. I hope these are real...FUCK!
 
oh yeah these were bought in februrary and the nandrolona was old then. expration december 02 i was told this description was correct for older nandrolona
 
BTW, the Lot number on my Ttokkyo EQ that has a raise line on the bottom with the raised letters "bT" is lot #034 and the exp date is MZO. 03 .

It came shrink wrapped with hologram and had a white cap on the bottle with Ttokkyo on it.
 
when i bought my stuff everyone said no fakes and then for 6 months after they said no fakes i hope i bought before the fakes came around
 
Acneman i just got some ttokkyo deca today it has a white top, lot #0224 expiration date march 03, also on the bottom it looks like

--------
52

hopefully mines not a fake
 
Mine has the white top lot#-0224 Marzo 03....and has what looks to be a 8T on the bottom with a line above it....I got these from a legit guy...let me know whats up..
 
Bump this shit up . I'm supposed to take this damn EQ tonight...anyone have any new info??
 
Just got some EQ and it was shrink wrapped with the holligram sticker on the bottom...If it has a holligram is it safe??? I have to look at the bottom though will update later...I got from a reputable place, hope its all good.
 
Heres the deal with my shit.I have one bottle of deca, it has TK on the bottom of the bottle.I also have two bottles of boldenon that have TK on the bottom of the bottle.But my cyp does not,it just has a line with some number under it.Does this mean my cyp is fake?
 
ok just opened my EQ it was shrinkwrapped with a tk and an LT on the bottom with a line
they also have a hologram on it lot 075 exp jul 03 in raised letters on th box
and a white cap
 
MaxBiceps said:
.
Coul you please let me know the place you bougth the products, in order to
follow this situation, you and the rest of the board members anre the only
persons who can help us to determine and to find out the fakes and the
peoplewhos is doing this.
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Well what did you say to Dr. Molina ? That you bought it for your dogs ? lol Its fun to see TT admits their products is used by us (EF members) to juice......
 
Got one with no raised TK. Then I got another one with the raised TK but a different lot and batch. got the security holagram on both. Maybe the lot that I have,thst don't have the raised letters because they were made before they switched bottles. The one with no raised letters expires in May 2002, and it could have been made in 1999. Dose't gear have a conservative shelf life of 3-4 years?
 
i have both deca and EQ both have no TK on the bottom but both was shrinkwrap and have a hologram on them mine worked very good .............
 
BLUE FLIP TOPS ARE NOT FAKE...

They used the blue flips on their older stuff...(deca,Cyp)

My Cyp also has NO TK on the bottom...And it worked great...

Ttokkyo is NOW using the new TK on the bottom of the bottle and also, all new products will have WHITE flip top lids...They still have some older vials left...I'm sure they will use them...
 
Oh this is not good...I have some EQ and Testonon, both of which i got from two different guys. The EQ has the letters ST with a line over it and the testonon doesn't have anything on the bottom at all!

Not fucking good at all. Hopefully this counterfiet shit is still good.
 
ROAD DOG said:
.I also have two bottles of boldenon that have TK on the bottom of the bottle.But my cyp does not,it just has a line with some number under it.Does this mean my cyp is fake?
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Im in the same boat all my boldedone has the tk
but I have 2 bottles of cyp
both have the white tops


one has tk on the bottom lot 041 experation may. 03... the expiration date is printed on the bottle ,as opposed to looking like any other writing on the lable...

the other has just a number on the bottom the only diffrence on lable is on the front , testosterone cypionate 200 LA is larger than the other bottle the expiration date looks like any oother writing on the lable lot 005 exp ene. 03
 
BLUE FLIP TOPS ARE NOT FAKE...

They used the blue flips on their older stuff...(deca,Cyp)

My Cyp also has NO TK on the bottom...And it worked great...

Ttokkyo is NOW using the new TK on the bottom of the bottle and also, all new products will have WHITE flip top lids...They still have some older vials left...I'm sure they will use them...

If you need a little help on ttokkyo products, e-mail me...
 
The Bull,

What do you think about my EQ? The Lot number on my Ttokkyo EQ that has a raise line on the bottom with the raised letters "bT" is lot #034 and the exp date is MZO. 03 . It doesn't have have a raised "TK" on the bottom though. Has a white flip off top that also looks exactly the same as my other Ttokkyo bottles with "TK" on the bottom
 
MaxBiceps said:
First off, the blue tops are definitely fake.
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WRONG...ttokkyo's first batches of deca came exclusively with blue tops...now they have white ones...if he got his early this year or late last year, then blue tops are fine...
 
Okay, what about blue flip off deca...lot 254..exp. nov.03..and bottom of bottle has a 25 with a line over it, or a 52 with a line under it ???
 
tk in the botttom

All my decas have the white flip top and TK in the bottom. We got these straight from one of their TJ distributers
 
i have 2 bottles of eq they both came in shrink rap, both have holograms, and both have tk on the bottom, along with the tk there is a line and on the other side of the line is a O2 on one and a T2 on the other. hope everything works out for everyone.

p.s. if anyone wants to throw me some karma i would appreciate it, i still cant give out positive karma.

i also took a pick of mine if anyone want to see, i cant post it.
 
Hey Mechanic I have the same Deca. I wonder if they're fake because these guys said that the earlier ones had blue tops, but the expiration dates on these are pretty late- Nov 03????

I don't know what to think. Also I have two bottles of EQ with expiration dates mar 03, and July 03 and the only one with a tk on the bottom of the bottle is the July 03 one.
 
The Bull said:
BLUE FLIP TOPS ARE NOT FAKE...

They used the blue flips on their older stuff...(deca,Cyp)

My Cyp also has NO TK on the bottom...And it worked great...

Ttokkyo is NOW using the new TK on the bottom of the bottle and also, all new products will have WHITE flip top lids...They still have some older vials left...I'm sure they will use them...

If you need a little help on ttokkyo products, e-mail me...
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I agree. People don't understand that the newer stock is not what necessarily finds its way to suppliers. Also I would like to add that the holograms were usually rectangular or square but one one particular lot had ROUND holograms.
A fake is going to be seen without the shrink wrap,ect. Nobody in Mexico is going to bother to make elaborate fakes of something that is cheaper for them to just buy. People don't want to realize this.
 
Your_Moms_Kneepads said:
I agree. People don't understand that the newer stock is not what necessarily finds its way to suppliers. Also I would like to add that the holograms were usually rectangular or square but one one particular lot had ROUND holograms.
A fake is going to be seen without the shrink wrap,ect. Nobody in Mexico is going to bother to make elaborate fakes of something that is cheaper for them to just buy. People don't want to realize this.
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Exactly, hopefully people will listen to guys like yourself and Slopain and quit trippin out. 1 rookie hollers "i got a Ttokkyo Fake" and it's the topic of discussion for weeks. Guys, listen to these fella's and chill out.
 
Bar Room Hero said:
I am not comforted by the fact that Dr. Molina has no concept of grammar and cannot spell.
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I don't think it is too bad considering English is his 2nd or 3rd language...
 
Yo my ..

My Ttokkyo Eq bottles have the lot #034 and the exp date march 2003 written out as MZO 03 the bottom of the bottles dont have a TK but rather numbers. My four bottles have this marking:

24

24

24

23

respectively. I got mine from a good sources so I highly doubt it
 
and the 20ml vials .....

have nothing at the bottom. this is what a Tk rep said to me in an e-mail. check it out. trenbol & stanol. the bottom is smooth.
 
All of my friends here in my town have NEVER had negative results with Ttokkyo products!!! I'll see if any of them have keeped their Deca 300 bottles and will give everyone here their lot #'s from their bottles. The same with the Eq 200. I have a couple of these at the time being, but they're at my buddies house. I would suggest everyone wait to hear the reaction from Damian Borleone and Slopain about the initial post of this thread before they get their panties all wet...however, if you want, just send your bottles to me and i'll let you know if they are real or not in about a month or two....hehehe:D

MR. BMJ
 
Yeah bro I had great results when i used them last time. Im not sweating it. Oh and one mor ething I also have a Winny bottle and it has no number its smooth so Rocketman ur right. They ARE smooth
 
Where is SLOPAIN?Hopefully he can staighten this whole thing out for us,he seems to know just about everything about TTOKKYO products.I would like to figure out soon if my stuff is legit because I want to start my cycle soon.
 
Don't have time to read through all the replies, but if someone has already said this sorry.

But it seems very funny that a vet steroid producer would be acknowledging the sale of his products to "board members". This is the reason that I say ttokkyo does not produce their products for animals (disclaimer for all those who talk shit about vet products). Also, I don't trust any lab results anyway. It is very easy to fudge them, use a good vial as opposed to the ones that they sell or just plain fabricate them.
 
My opinion only here.

Not taking chances on their stuff. Too iffy for me. I thought the same thing when reading that email from the Manager. He was addressing board members and such? Very weird. I'm not saying it isn't a real email from someone from Ttokkyo but they seem to be a strange company.
 
I'm not calling Max a liar, but I don't buy that.

Did this email come directly to you Max?
 
I have no idea if this was a true email. I do know that many legit ttokkyo products have TK on the bottom of the bottle but also some have other markings that are legit and it has been this way for a while (before the slander on the boards against ttokkyo started). Although I can't comment on this email as being true I know some of it isnt, however Im in no postion to say right now if there are real fakes in circulation (in any real numbers other than a few noveltys) other than the ketamine which shouldnt affect us bodybuilders anyway.
 
AJC, yes this e-mail came directly to me.

Slopain, WTF do you mean that you know some of this e-mail isn't true? You really think I'm gonna change the fucking e-mail to make ttokkyo look bad????

I e-mailed them saying that alot of people on the boards were starting to wonder about ttokkyo, and this is the response I got. If you don't beleive me, then that's fine. I have no interest in "slandering" ttokkyo or any company for that matter. I was just trying to relay information I thought was interesting.

E-mail them yourself and see what they say.
 
Ok how about some posts of already used bottles they're description and lot#s and how they worked for you.

Im holding a bottle of TTokkyo Eq that is lot#023 expFeb. 03
The Box was sgrink wrapped with holigram on box flap and had
a white cap with darkTtokkyo on it. The info is raised on the boxand stamped in small bold print on the bottle. The bottom of the bottle has a horizontal arrow with 2 heads and the letters
ST below with arrow tips on all the points of the letters.

Quality--great EQ! Loved the results, no question in my mind.
Bought in TJ last April from our GRANERO.
 
Hmmmmm...i'm not the expert here but this is a little fishy...call me paranoid..but an email from a pharmaceutical co. GM? Its a little scary to see the first 3 pages of replies dont question its legitimacy (from the source) once. OK, of course they know all their products arent going to Vet use, but for a GM to acknowledge an anabolic steroid board and his products use is a little strange. Of course they are no Merck or Pfizer but something stinks. (I am referring to the sender of the email). Also, it seems the good Dr. has a broken "D" on his keyboard, as 90% of his misspellings are missing d's in words, not a sign of broken english. In any case, at the very least, I would exercise some caution...he asks for info regarding products and where you bought it...hmmmmm. Lot of heat lately....
 
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