damn, I dont even need to respond to posts anymore...
Anywho, I have tried the liquid pump that you can get from a vet, and the PT stuff, and pt was in a league all its own compared to it, nasty sides but great results
What sucks though is i'm almost immune to any type of clenbuterol though..
my first cycle with that stuff though, whoa. Amazing results, to say the least...
no muscle loss whatsoever and a ton of fat lost in 2 weeks time.