Racism: your real thoughts

[Abbaddon]

I am just wondering what people actually think about it. I hear some say it doesnt exist. I hear terms like reverse racism, an ignorant term because there is no such thing hating a particular type of people is racism no matter what type you are or what type they are.

I am interested in hearing peoples views. I personally have all sorts of friends I have rich friends, poor friends, friends that talk with accents, I am personally of Native American decent.

I was taught at a very young age to judge people not by their looks or wealth but by their actions. I do not judge a person of less financial wealth than myself as lower than I nor greater. I do not care about how people wear their cloths(although I think the way the young ones wear their pants halfway down their asses looks idiotic) that doesnt make them a better or worse person.

I ask you to try to put some of your thoughts on this subject together, and please please please can we do this in a MATURE fashion. Even though they are only words lets not use any racially/sexually/economically degrating slang terms. We are adults and I would love to hear all of your thoughts on this subject.

Please everyone try to keep an open mind and listen to what the others have to post and contribute.

 

[Code]

As a society, we need mutual enemies to aim our angst, failures and shortcomings at. Racism fills this rather effectively, even though the targets of racism are almost never the culprit or reason for our shortcomings.

Take the white American male: he has done very little to hinder the success of the black man. But the white American male gives the black man someone to blame his failures for.

But the shoe also fits the other foot too: take the poor white anglo-saxon protestant (WAP), they have an intristic dislike for people of jewish heritage. They accuse the jewish community of collusion and angling the WAP out of the marketplace.

Its something that will never ever go away. So simply embrace it, pick an arbitrary segment of society and blame them for something.

I'll start: I hate lesbians because they deprive millions of men from their dream of having a harem of bi-sexual women!

 

[Lao Tzu]

code:
i think gordon allport invented the theory that we are projecting our undesirable traits onto another race. did you read his book?

i don't know myself. spousal abuse is considered to be something only poor people do. so it's hard to say we are above projecting our undesirable traits on undesirable people (being black = being stupid, being jewish = being evil, being poor = abusing your wife & fucking your kids). don't even let me start with all the negative stereotypes surrounding drugs & drug users.

to me, racism is a by product of slavery, and the memes that used to hold that society together.

 

[Abbaddon]

As a society, we need mutual enemies to aim our angst, failures and shortcomings at. Racism fills this rather effectively, even though the targets of racism are almost never the culprit or reason for our shortcomings.

Take the white American male: he has done very little to hinder the success of the black man. But the white American male gives the black man someone to blame his failures for.

But the shoe also fits the other foot too: take the poor white anglo-saxon protestant (WAP), they have an intristic dislike for people of jewish heritage. They accuse the jewish community of collusion and angling the WAP out of the marketplace.

Its something that will never ever go away. So simply embrace it, pick an arbitrary segment of society and blame them for something.

I'll start: I hate lesbians because they deprive millions of men from their dream of having a harem of bi-sexual women!

This is the type of thing I am talking of. Thank you for your thoughts they are very insitefull.

You are correct racism will probably never go away, but I just choose not to cludder my mind with such thoughts. I like being responsible for my own failure and my own successes. Just how I was raised(good job mom and dad). I do not think that makes me above anyone else before a flame gets thrown to me. Maybe I am wrong about all this......I do not know but one thing I do know is that I do not care to find out if I am. I just really like deciding on people after I get to know them instead of just seeing them.

 

[strongchick]

Calling muslims 'towelheads'.

That is racism.

I've seen it on this board a thousand times.

 

[Balls of Steel]

Calling muslims 'towelheads'.

That is racism.

I've seen it on this board a thousand times.

Go shit in your turban bitch! Than eat it.

 

[strongchick]

Go shit in your turban bitch! Than eat it.

Oh, don't like that I call you racists out on your rampant use of degrading language toward Muslim's, hmm?

heehee.

 

[Abbaddon]

Hey folks I asked for a real conversation on what people think about racism in a mature adult way if you cannot would you please not post on this thread or I will ask a mod to delete the thread. I am actually trying to get people to talk about their thoughts not trade insults.

 

[Balls of Steel]

You call everyone a racist. You need to americanize your self and have a little pride in being an american and stop sympathizing with the enemy.

Learn to keep your legs open and your mouth shut.

Your views on racism and war suck Garzas big dick.

 

[Balls of Steel]

Hey folks I asked for a real conversation on what people think about racism in a mature adult way if you cannot would you please not post on this thread or I will ask a mod to delete the thread. I am actually trying to get people to talk about their thoughts not trade insults.

Sorry, Im done.

 

[smallmovesal]

strongchick, i agree. i was telling people to direct their anger appropriately after the attack and i recall some really nasty insults being flung for that... i was getting called a c^&t and a whore, etc... ridiculous.

 

[Abbaddon]

You call everyone a racist. You need to americanize your self and have a little pride in being an american and stop sympathizing with the enemy.

Learn to keep your legs open and your mouth shut.

Your views on racism and war suck Garzas big dick.

Please stop with the comments especially directed toward women that way.. I am thinking this was a bad idea for a thread maybe we just arent mature enough to discuss this.

 

[kunta]

all people are racist.... some more blatant than others...

 

[strongchick]

Please stop with the comments especially directed toward women that way.. I am thinking this was a bad idea for a thread maybe we just arent mature enough to discuss this.

I agree with you on this. This is not a good subject for the board.

We can't discuss this rationally here.

 

[gymnpoppa]

Abbaddon, I've never seen a mature discussion about racism here, partly because the people engaging are not interested in anything but being derogatory. I've participated in a few of them (months ago), and that's all they were. Emotional, racist rants. Which if you hadn't threatened to have mods delete this one, it would have gone the same way. Since the last group of mods came onboard, they have locked, or deleted racist threads. Which pissed off a lot of those who were involved in the hateful, derogatory comments. And lately schick has been the recipient of the derogatory slurs with her controversial posts. Whether she's doing it for kicks, or serious, it enflames a lot of people on this board.

 

[Bi-Chick]

Who on this board is racist?

 

[gymnpoppa]

Who on this board is racist?

Just hang around dear, or do a search on racism.

 

[MoneyBags]

racism is some good shit.

 

[Bi-Chick]

I have read this board for a couple days, and I dont really see any racists anywhere.

 

[MoneyBags]

i hate eskimos.

 

[dballer]

I am racist against the people who took Jello Pudding Pops off the market.... and the shitbags who took Like Cola off the market!!!!

 

[smallmovesal]

damn i loved those pudding pops!

 

[Bi-Chick]

i hate eskimos.

I really dont have a problem with any particular race. But, I do think we let too many people from foreign countrys in here. That may be why it is so dangerous to live in the USA during these turbulant times.

 

[dballer]

I liked them too... There was alot of stuff that I liked growing up that just slipped away.... like Pepsi Free

 

[Code]

Our open door policy is a double-edged sword.
On one hand, it gives us diversity.
On the other hand, it causes over population.

But I don't think that our immigration process opens us to any more danger than that which we could pose to ourselves.

I'm an isolationist and have a lot of other issues with our open door policy.

 

[Code]

And Crystal Pepsi!
I miss that stuff.

 

[Lao Tzu]

And Crystal Pepsi!
I miss that stuff.

have you read gordon allport's book 'the nature of prejudice'? he put forth the same idea you did. is that where you got your idea, or did you develop it on your own, or get it from somewhere else.

i think it has to do with the fact that a society must have boundaries & tokens (attributes) that are necessary for membership, otherwise there will be no law or direction. racists used to be racist against everyone. non-whites, non-protestants & non-americans. people seem to forget that.

as far as stereotypes, i think they are an exaggeration of an undesirable trait in an effort to justify segregation & repression. if one black person is a criminal, all are criminals, so you can justify repressing & segregating them. we do the same thing with drugs, a few people misuse them, so we use that to justify repressing (harsher laws) & segregating (drug tests) them.

 

[dballer]

Does anyone remember Marathon Bars???

 

[Code]

I'm sure I read it in college.
We had this mandatory racism class that bored me to tears.

90% of the class involved everyone walking on eggs and being PC.

I hate people who are PC simply because they want the most people to like them. It's like watching TV during sweeps week, all hugs and no honesty.

 

[Warik]

Calling muslims 'towelheads'.

That is racism.

I've seen it on this board a thousand times.

racism - a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

"Muslim" is a race? Where do they come from? Muslimania?

Is calling you the epitome of ignoramusy (Yup... I invented a word. You can do that when you're not the epitome of ignoramusy) racism too?

BTW: I'm not saying it's right to call Muslims "towelheads" (although, "towelhead" refers to someone who wears a towel, or turban, on his head... which in this case is pretty much 100% true) - I'm saying that it's not "racism."

Someone (or all of you) give strongchick bad karma on my behalf because I can't give her anymore. You will be rewarded with some good moderator-powered karma. =)

-Warik

 

[Warik]

Who on this board is racist?

me... I believe that the human race sux and that I'm inherently superior. b0w b4 me

-Warik

 

[Warik]

90% of the class involved everyone walking on eggs and being PC.

Did you know that nowadays it's considered politically incorrect to publish "offensive" words even if they are used in quotations indicating that they were said by others?

Remember that story about the bomber pilots writing "HIGH JACK THIS FAGS" (yea they misspelled hijack heheheh) on a bomb? The newspaper was like: "They wrote 'HIGH JACK THIS' and then an anti-gay word!"

Unbelievable...

-Warik

 

[huntmaster]

Racism still exists all over this country because people cant get over the crutch of the oppresion of their ancestors.

Every time we take a step forward, here comes Mia Angelo(or whatever that 'ol gal's name is) gets up on the TV and starts philosophying about the crimes of the past, and we take two steps back.

I respect people like Allan Keyes and JC Watts and Herman Boone who refuse to use their race as a crutch---I know there are many more out there, they are just few and far between.

HM

 

[nenofury]

I grew up in Baltimore city. I witnessed countless acts of black on white racism. I have been a victim several times. Never once have I seen or heard of white on black racism. Take that for what it's worth.

 

[Lao Tzu]

I grew up in Baltimore city. I witnessed countless acts of black on white racism. I have been a victim several times. Never once have I seen or heard of white on black racism. Take that for what it's worth.

was it race based? sometimes any act of violence that involves 2 races is labeled a hate crime. if you have black gangsters & white businessmen that isn't really a hate crime. it is easy money.

its true though, blacks commit much more hate in word & deed than whites. i hate our society with our 'its better to fit in than live in the real world' mentality.

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

Racism runs rampant in the ignorant.

I laugh at people complaining about black on white racism. You don't think the american society has been unfair for blacks???

It has only been 30 years since blacks have been able to exist on relatively equal terms, and mainly because of pro sports and pop culture have black individuals been able to aqcuire any kind of wealth.

 

[litig8r]

The older I get, the more I tend to stereotype people based on race. It is not done in to demean a particular race, it is simply my opinions based on repeated observations. I also recognize that not all members of a race will fit my stereotypes. I do however tend to utilize the stereotype until proven wrong by an individual. As a trial lawyer, I must judge a persons opinions, feelings and predict their behavior in response to my case based on a short Q & A. The USSCt. says I can not use race as a factor in picking a jury, but I do. Other than ones religious and political beliefs, ones culture is the best indicator of what someone will do or how they will react. If that makes me a racist, I am. I make assumptions about a person based on their culture and that includes their race.

hasta

litig8r

 

[Kahn]

I don't have much use for racism but I agree I am more of one now that I am 36. I, too, was raised to judge people by their actions, not their color. I have been in the military and been treated like they say they are treated, I am more guarded about being or seeing them becasue of the way they treat me now. Racism shows up here from time to time and that is when we get these threads. If someone wasn't pissed at a skin color, we could talk rationally about it. I am now at an age where I don't want to fuck around with all the stupid shit a racist brings with them so I avoid non white racists and tell the cracker racist to shut the fuck up. As for projecting my probs onto a black or whatever man, bullshit. I am the lazy fuck, not them, I did the shit that is wrong with me. Have a good night you whatever you are.

 

[VicTusDeuS]

I believe the corect terminology would be "Turban-Heads"

In context, it will be Kill all the damn Turban Heads...
Is that racist? No, just stereotypical

racism - a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

"Muslim" is a race? Where do they come from? Muslimania?

Is calling you the epitome of ignoramusy (Yup... I invented a word. You can do that when you're not the epitome of ignoramusy) racism too?

BTW: I'm not saying it's right to call Muslims "towelheads" (although, "towelhead" refers to someone who wears a towel, or turban, on his head... which in this case is pretty much 100% true) - I'm saying that it's not "racism."

Someone (or all of you) give strongchick bad karma on my behalf because I can't give her anymore. You will be rewarded with some good moderator-powered karma. =)

-Warik

 

[Honeynut]

I think anyone who acts or speaks against any human being on the sole basis of their skin color, language, dress, religion, nationality, is racist.

 

[Longhorn85]

I am surprised how many people on this board are preoccupied with the issue of race. Why does it keep emerging as a topic?

 

[Honeynut]

Imagine we had no clue what everyone's race, political view, religion was, and everyone got along based on their mutual passion for fitness.

Your level of tolerance and respect should come from within. Race/color shouldn't have anything to do with it.

 

[Badkins21]

Modern blacks (due to poor leadership, mainly, although upbringing has a lot to do with it, also) push modern whites towards racism, because they won't let the past become the past. (strongchick is the PRIME current example on the board!)

Same thing with modern feminists (ALTHOUGH, most women now consider feminism a facet of lesbians only...) do the same thing to men...

Class structure will never end...

LONG LIVE THE ECHWAM!!!

"Only the strong survive," and "Survival of the Fittest" still mean something!

 

[Lord_Suston]

Racism is solution for the stupid and ignorant, all races have them... I solely judge people if they are idiots or not, to blame races is a crock of shit, but there are differences between them, mind you and don't let any one tell you different cause if evryone was the same and equal this thread would never have taken place.