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r-ALA

found this paltry article.. the author seems overly confident :p

The majority of products currently on the market, in point of fact all, contain the racemic mixture of r-ALA and s-ALA.
The racemic mixture does give some of the benefits of r-ALA, but it does not give all of them. For those benefits that the racemic mixture does impart it requires much higher dosages to achieve the same effects than with r-ALA.

How much better is r-ALA?

For glucose disposal it is estimated that it takes AT LEAST three times the amount of racemic ALA to match the effects of r-ALA.
This is in part due to the fact that s-ALA does not improve plasma free fatty acids[1], has a negative impact on glucose transport (GLUT4) proteins[2] and also increases insulin levels[3]. It is likely that due to the increase in insulin the racemic mixture can never
deliver the same benefits as the pure r-ALA. The other important facet of ALA is its benefit as a potent anti-oxidant.
The anti-oxidant effects of racemic mixtures are quite varied and depend on the tissue. With administration of racemic mixtures the s-ALA often negates much of the value of the R-ala in many tissues. The main method by which ALA is effective as an anti-oxidant is through its reduction to Di-Hydro-Lipoic Acid (DHLA). In tissues like the brain[4], heart [5] [6], kidneys and retina[7] the s-ALA enantiomer blocks the enzymatic reduction of r-ALA to DHLA.
While s-ALA is sometimes reduced in these tissues, it is at 1/7 to 1/24 of the rate reduction of r-ALA. In some tissues, including the retina, it has no effect at all other than to block the reduction of r-ALA[8].
The above essentially means that the removal of the s-ALA enantiomer is absolutely necessary to achieve the affects that are promised
by the research.
What it also means is that r-ALA is far superior to the racemic mixtures that are currently available in most, not all, aspects of application.






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[1] Am J Physiol 1997 Jul;273(1 Pt 1):E185-91 Differential effects of lipoic acid
stereoisomers on glucose metabolism in insulin-resistant skeletal muscle. Streeper RS,
Henriksen EJ, Jacob S, Hokama JY, Fogt DL, Tritschler HJ. Department of Physiology,
University of Arizona, Tucson 85721-0093, USA.



[2] ibid



[3] ibid


[4] Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A 2002 May 14;99(10):7184-5 Memory loss in old
rats is associated with brain mitochondrial decay and RNA/DNA oxidation:
partial reversal by feeding acetyl-L-carnitine and/or R-alpha –lipoic acid.
Liu J, Head E, Gharib AM, Yuan W, Ingersoll RT, Hagen TM, Cotman CW, Ames
BN.Division of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology,
University of California, Berkeley, CA 94720, USA.

[5] J Mol Cell Cardiol 1995 Sep;27(9):1895-903 Dose/response curves
of lipoic acid R-and S-forms in the working rat heart during reoxygenation:
superiority of the R-enantiomer in enhancement of aortic flow. Zimmer G, Beikler TK,
Schneider M, Ibel J, Tritschler H, Ulrich H. Gustav-Embden-Zentrum,
Biologischen Chemie, Universitatsklinikum, Frankfurt am Main, Germany.

[6] Biochem Pharmacol 1995 Aug 25;50(5):637-46 Interaction of alpha-lipoic acid
enantiomers and homologues with the enzyme components of the mammalian pyruvate
dehydrogenase complex. Loffelhardt S, Bonaventura C, Locher M, Borbe HO,
Bisswanger H. Physiologisch-Chemisches Institut, University of Tubingen, Germany.

[7] Biochem Mol Biol Int 1995 Oct;37(2):361-70 Modelling cortical cataractogenesis 17:
in vitro effect of a-lipoic acid on glucose-induced lens membrane damage, a model of
diabetic cataractogenesis. Kilic F, Handelman GJ, Serbinova E,
Packer L, Trevithick JR. Dept. of Biochemistry, University of Western Ontario, London, Canada.



someone needs to work on their creative writing skills :p
 
I now this has nothing to do with r-ALA, but figuered Id ask while on the topic of liver detox. I just got Tyler's today, how many caps of tyler's do i use Ulter?
 
I just received my R-ALA today. Ulter just to spark my memory, how many mg did you suggest taking per 100carbs? Thanks.

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ulter said:
Yes. There is only one place to get it. The AF Store. I don't know how long that will last but for now we're the only ones.
The 50 50 mix, Racemic, is not going to measure up to the r-ALA. No way no how. If all you want is an anti oxidant then it's fine but it should not be used to control insulin levels like people are using it. The reason is that the s ALA has been show to INCREASE insulin levels by 15% at the same time the r-ALA will decrease insulin levels by 17% and decrease Fatty acids by 35%. So if you put them together you have one enantiomer the s, that will negate the benefits of the r-ALA. In other words the s should not be in with the r.


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Am J Physiol 1997 Jul;273(1 Pt 1):E185-91 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut


Differential effects of lipoic acid stereoisomers on glucose metabolism in insulin-resistant skeletal muscle.

Streeper RS, Henriksen EJ, Jacob S, Hokama JY, Fogt DL, Tritschler HJ.

Department of Physiology, University of Arizona, Tucson 85721-0093, USA.

The racemic mixture of the antioxidant alpha-lipoic acid (ALA) enhances insulin-stimulated glucose metabolism in insulin-resistant humans and animals. We determined the individual effects of the pure R-(+) and S-(-) enantiomers of ALA on glucose metabolism in skeletal muscle of an animal model of insulin resistance, hyperinsulinemia, and dyslipidemia: the obese Zucker (fa/fa) rat. Obese rats were treated intraperitoneally acutely (100 mg/kg body wt for 1 h) or chronically [10 days with 30 mg/kg of R-(+)-ALA or 50 mg/kg of S-(-)-ALA]. Glucose transport [2-deoxyglucose (2-DG) uptake], glycogen synthesis, and glucose oxidation were determined in the epitrochlearis muscles in the absence or presence of insulin (13.3 nM). Acutely, R-(+)-ALA increased insulin-mediated 2-DG-uptake by 64% (P < 0.05), whereas S-(-)-ALA had no significant effect. Although chronic R-(+)-ALA treatment significantly reduced plasma insulin (17%) and free fatty acids (FFA; 35%) relative to vehicle-treated obese animals, S-(-)-ALA treatment further increased insulin (15%) and had no effect on FFA. Insulin-stimulated 2-DG uptake was increased by 65% by chronic R-(+)-ALA treatment, whereas S-(-)-ALA administration resulted in only a 29% improvement. Chronic R-(+)-ALA treatment elicited a 26% increase in insulin-stimulated glycogen synthesis and a 33% enhancement of insulin-stimulated glucose oxidation. No significant increase in these parameters was observed after S-(-)-ALA treatment. Glucose transporter (GLUT-4) protein was unchanged after chronic R-(+)-ALA treatment but was reduced to 81 +/- 6% of obese control with S-(-)-ALA treatment. Therefore, chronic parenteral treatment with the antioxidant ALA enhances insulin-stimulated glucose transport and non-oxidative and oxidative glucose metabolism in insulin-resistant rat skeletal muscle, with the R-(+) enantiomer being much more effective than the S-(-) enantiomer.

I just read saw this while reading up the last months posts that
I missed.

Your statement Ulter is a bit hazy.

While its true that s-ala increases insulin by 15%, and r-ala
reduces it by 17%, it is INCORRECT to assume that a 50/50
conjugate would yield total destructive interference.
I.e. they cancel each other out.

Still. R-ala IN THE STUDIES proved to be FAR better than
the 50/50 mix in insulogenic control.
I'll post my little 6-day r-ala vs normal ala blood glucose
monitoring experiment when I can.(I start in 5 days)
It should prove useful in determining r-ala's REAL LIFE
impact on blood glucose levels.

Have to admit I'm rather curious.
Personally, I'm leaning towards r-ala being a bit better.
The science behind it is just a bit too overwhelming.

Fonz
 
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