Quility Vet Underdosed???

[Njuice]

i have lot QVE-004 of test e. and the lot # is printed in what looks to be the same process as the rest of the label... but it seems to be legit stuff to me...

Yeah i don't doubt the enanthat i doubt the eq cause the lot # and expiration date is stamped on when the other products have it printed on ... anyone know if that's normal or what?

 

[Jae]

You must be sellling spectro or another brand of gear

Why would you say that? Are YOU selling QV and hate the bad comments? Scared of losing YOUR business? I am only speaking the truth. If you go back and do a search under my name here and on AF, you will see I asked quite a few times about going with QV prop since Viramones are hard to come by. After enough thumbs up I went with them. $30 for 10cc of 100mg is a great buy. But I will NEVER use them again. After being clean over a year, I actually EXPECT results. And I am getting NONE off this. I added tren last week and now 10 days later, I have added 2 reps on my bench. But after 5 weeks of using QV, I have not had shit as far as results.

700mg of test prop weekly and my weight has not changed? Give me a break. I am not selling any gear or giving a thumbs up to anyone. I am just stating the truth. I am going to be using Supra starting Monday and if I have problems with that, I will be here to tell you. I was one of the very first ones to start posting how I was not getting gains from IP two years ago. See how that turned out. When I starting posting on how I was getting ZERO response to MK's masteron, other people said the same thing as you.

I am not going to lie. Maybe I got a bad batch. Cause I sure as hell as VERY responsive to test at 400mg weekly.

 

[BigAndy69]

Why would you say that? Are YOU selling QV and hate the bad comments? Scared of losing YOUR business? I am only speaking the truth. If you go back and do a search under my name here and on AF, you will see I asked quite a few times about going with QV prop since Viramones are hard to come by. After enough thumbs up I went with them. $30 for 10cc of 100mg is a great buy. But I will NEVER use them again. After being clean over a year, I actually EXPECT results. And I am getting NONE off this. I added tren last week and now 10 days later, I have added 2 reps on my bench. But after 5 weeks of using QV, I have not had shit as far as results.

700mg of test prop weekly and my weight has not changed? Give me a break. I am not selling any gear or giving a thumbs up to anyone. I am just stating the truth. I am going to be using Supra starting Monday and if I have problems with that, I will be here to tell you. I was one of the very first ones to start posting how I was not getting gains from IP two years ago. See how that turned out. When I starting posting on how I was getting ZERO response to MK's masteron, other people said the same thing as you.

I am not going to lie. Maybe I got a bad batch. Cause I sure as hell as VERY responsive to test at 400mg weekly.

Sorry bro, you've got it all wrong, I was been sarcastic, if you read the entire thread over again you would know what I'm talking about.

I beleive you and I know you're a good guy.

 

[marx]

This has to be one of the most confusing threads i've ever read. Am I the only one that understood what BigAndy69 was saying???

 

[Metal Gear]

I understand exactly what he's saying, but that's beside the point. I haven't seen 1 decent post that everyone agrees on the same product. This is just another one of those. It works for some and not for the others, that's it. You can prove shit unless you get a whole bunch of different batches and get them tested, other then that you are assed out...got to take a chance. That's what you get when you fuck with vet stuff from Mexico.

 

[Jae]

Sorry bigandy if I misunderstood. I read the first page and hit REPLY and posted my experience. My results so far have been extremely non existent.

 

[WannaImpress]

They are on anascience, believe it tested out at 200mgs exactly

this sounds like TT all over, rumors saying their shit sucked and was dirty...

I have used TT and had nothing but good results

HighIntensity is right, rumors rumors....they get old after awhile. I used Ttokkyo products including their EQ with great success so if you can get QV cheaper than other products then go for it. Njuice you should be good to go!

 

[droid]

I understand exactly what he's saying, but that's beside the point. I haven't seen 1 decent post that everyone agrees on the same product. This is just another one of those. It works for some and not for the others, that's it. You can prove shit unless you get a whole bunch of different batches and get them tested, other then that you are assed out...got to take a chance. That's what you get when you fuck with vet stuff from Mexico.

I think that no one will ever agree on the same product. I started this game in 1990 and there will always be counterfeits and fakes as there was then as there is now. The major factor that as metal gear points out is that some drugs work for some and not others. The problem being that most gear will not yield the same results in one person as it will in the other with all things being equal as training, eating and sleep. My best friend and I started juicing at the same time with the same drugs the same dosages, slept and ate the same, yet I gained 15 more pounds than he did. Why I do not know, but he trained and tried his heart out as much as I did and he could never catch me. The fact that everyone is different and there is always multiple circumstance's that affect any one persons gains from another. There is no exact science to describe anything that will work for the masses be it drugs, nutrition or training. Otherwise we all would be monsters. It sucks that the drug makers complicate this even more by assuring us that their products are 100%. When in most instances the obtainable Mexican drugs or other European drugs do not meet label claims. Adding this to the dissension of would be hopeful muscle monsters they are not only marketing a possibly inviable product but under dose or not dose a particular product close to the label claims deceiving the expecting buyer. The bottom line is and always has been is that steroids only work for some and not most and the people that they work for always question the validity of the product when they do not yield the expected results. Skewing the outcome for the users that thought they should be monsters and never were going to be.

DROID

 

[Metal Gear]

Exactly my point. Couldn't have said it better myself!

Thats's why they are called DRUGS!

 

[BigAndy69]

Sorry bigandy if I misunderstood. I read the first page and hit REPLY and posted my experience. My results so far have been extremely non existent.

No problem bro.

Guys, why is it we never hear any complaints about legit European/American/Canadian gear?

Maybe because the consistency of these products is good.

The fact is there are many factors at play here so figuring out if a product is good or bad makes it very hard.

Some Mexican and underground labs understand that and they take advantage of the situation, one batch may be overdosed, another will be underdosed.

The fact is, if a newbie to gear (under 3 cycles) uses underdosed gear, he will still make good gains. Especially with the current newbie cycles of 500mg of test/ 400mg of EQ and 30mg of Dbol.

Even if his gear is underdosed by more than 50%, a first time user could still gain 20 lbs.

That's why vets are so important, if Jae, Needsize, Huck, da big thinker tell me a product is bad or good I will listen.