Bite me - I would be interested in reading wjatever you have to say about experiences from heaven. I grew up super religious - motly because of my mothers influence. My dad grew up super religious - son of a methodist minister. My parents made us go to church every week of course, my brothers hated it but I being a weird little dork liked church. When I was 24 I changed affiliations but remained super religious until about 2-3 years ago.
When I was around 18 or so I went through some times that were hard - even in retrospect I realize they were alot to go through. I felt like God, the heavens whatever - did not hear me when I cried out. I discussed this with my dad and he told me "Faith and 25 cents will buy you a cup of coffee".
I was surprised at this, but now I think I realize the religious upbringing was mostly my moms doing. My dad was a POW in WWII. Not at the pussy POW camps - some of them were about like boyscout camp. But at some of the tougher ones Dulag luft III, Nuremburg etc. He saw guys tortured. One not uncommon torture was getting a fire hose shoved up the ass and the water turned on until you died. At first I guess they had it wrong and it would shoot guys guts out there mouths too fast and they were dead in like 10 seconds, but they figured out the correct water speeds and it became a slow way to die. You don't think these guys cried out to the heavens saying help me? My dad says he was tortured as well, and has some pretty serious scars on his body including one on his chest shaped like a horseshoe that is about a foot long.
I am sure he cried out to God....and probably wondered where God was when people he knew died and when he slit a mans throat open. I remember him telling me the saddest thing he saw was after he was liberated he was in France and saw this old woman - like 80 years old - struggling with her frail weak body to drag a cart that was carrying the coffin of her husband. She was all alone and was taking it, would have to dig the hole and bury him all herself.
I am sure he cried out to God when he was locked for over 30 days in solitary, in a box smaller than a single size bed. From a few things he has let slip I don't think God sent him many telegrams back.
Why would God answer your prayers but not those that are dying, grieving, being tortured. Some people have suffered in ways so painful that many of us who experience nothing worse than cancer but are in a hospital with people taking care of us, or might have been in a car wreck and had our spines broken but again are in a nice clean hospital surrounded by people who wish us well, or who might have had the pain of a divorce but eat 3 meals a day while we cry about how hard we have it - can understand it. Why does God seemingly leave them adrift, cut loose from having prayers answered in strange, strange ways?
I too have cried to God. I had a dream and there was one set of footprints in the sand - and it seems that they were mine. Its hard for me to believe God has ever carried me. My dad once carried me on his shoulders when I was a kid, and it was fun and I did not feel any stress from walking. I think I know when I am being carried. When I have cried out to God I cannot remember my life being any easier - I felt great stress and it seems that the only one doing any work was me. So then I cried out to God and said FUCK YOU!
I know I sound hostile and bitter about God etc, but am serious when I would like to get a PM about how the heavens did strange things for you because it has not been my experience. I am not baiting you for a fight or an argument - I would love to find somethign to make me think or believe once again that there is some wise kind being out there somewhere that gave a shit about me. If I have had any answers to prayer it has been "NO". If I had anything strange happen to me from crying to heaven its been more pain. I may be wrong but it seems the only reason I have good things in my life today is because I sweated my ass off, toughed out the hard times, and did not wait for anything good to drop from heaven.If there is a God and I am incorrect and blind as to what he/she/it has ever done for me I hope he will educate me as to what the truth is as I would really like to know why he never answered my prayers "Yes, here is something you will like".
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