I take 50 mg d-bols if you look at my sig. you will see how I am gouing to run them butr here is what i did started @ 60 mg a day (tried dropping to 40mg ed but i lost 7 # in 4 days so staying @ 60) get a pill splitter split into 4 equal pices look at all 4 pieces you just cut, put the larger of the 4 to the side cut bunch of them into 4's nd always put the biggest piece to the side. Now take the 3 pieces every 6 hrs throught the day. 2 hrs before training take the biggest piece from the 4 (the ones you set aside ) now you are getting probably 8-12 3 x a day then the biggest piece or highest mg before working out!!