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Hey, this board is great; the information here is fantastic.
I've been lifting for about 9 years. I'm a classic ectomorph and I went naturally from 140 to 202 over the course of a few years of insane lifting and eating till I puked and stuff. I started with <8% BF but got bloated looking and a bit fatty at 200. But, oral surgery and a divorce took care of a lot of that; I lost some size too but got down to a very lean 170ish.
So, I got some stuff and I was just gonna ask for comment on it. I picked up Norma deca, 10 of them - thanks for the fake gear forum because I was able to ID the shit as either legit or the best faked, blue "Norma Hellas SA" printed directly on the bottle, counterfeits in the world. I also got 8 amps of Sust 250 and 100 dbols. I didn't have needles at first so I started with the dbols. I did a lot of reading and everyone has a different freakin idea of what a good dosage is. I started at 10mg twice per day and went as high as 20x2 but the last couple days have gone back to 10x2. I got the syringes from a bulk med supply co yesterday, so I went ahead and shot 100mg of deca and a sust amp. After this I went to the gym and it was the first really strong pump that I've gotten thus far; I felt insanely strong and my bodyweight is up about 5lbs in the week.
My questions are concerning the onset of peak symptoms of these products. I don't believe that an injection prior to a workout is going to have anywhere vaguely near enough time to metabolize in order to give the type of pump that I got, so I figure the Dbol must be to credit for that, but I was on varying doses for a week. My questions are how long normally is it before significant uptake of the chemicals occurs and what is the typical weight gain curve one expects? Additionally, there are a lot of different opinions on multi-chem stacks for steroid beginners; some say use the Dbol/deca/sust250 concurrently; others talk about test only, some people swear by deca with sust, so I was wondering what comments people had on this issue without opening too many old cans of worms. The stuff I have is what I have to work with, so I can't go above 1 amp sust/wk or really above 200mg deca/wk or exceed 20mg dBol/day and I'm not sure I really want to nor ought to. I have NAC and milk thistle for potential liver toxicity and I know volumes about diet and lifting programs. Also, I'm picking up Clomid and Novaldex for post-cycle/gyno respectively.
So, after getting onto sust250 with or w/o deca, do I really even need DBol or should I roll to a very low dosage? I figure the Dbol did what it said it would do but I have no real idea on what dosage is effective. Given what I have here to work with, what would the recommendations be? Essentially, I have relatively low potential weekly doses of 3 different items, and that would suggest to me that concurrent usage would be my best bet, but I want to hear people's opinions on this. It's not like the gear's gonna rot if I don't use it right now.
I've been lifting for about 9 years. I'm a classic ectomorph and I went naturally from 140 to 202 over the course of a few years of insane lifting and eating till I puked and stuff. I started with <8% BF but got bloated looking and a bit fatty at 200. But, oral surgery and a divorce took care of a lot of that; I lost some size too but got down to a very lean 170ish.
So, I got some stuff and I was just gonna ask for comment on it. I picked up Norma deca, 10 of them - thanks for the fake gear forum because I was able to ID the shit as either legit or the best faked, blue "Norma Hellas SA" printed directly on the bottle, counterfeits in the world. I also got 8 amps of Sust 250 and 100 dbols. I didn't have needles at first so I started with the dbols. I did a lot of reading and everyone has a different freakin idea of what a good dosage is. I started at 10mg twice per day and went as high as 20x2 but the last couple days have gone back to 10x2. I got the syringes from a bulk med supply co yesterday, so I went ahead and shot 100mg of deca and a sust amp. After this I went to the gym and it was the first really strong pump that I've gotten thus far; I felt insanely strong and my bodyweight is up about 5lbs in the week.
My questions are concerning the onset of peak symptoms of these products. I don't believe that an injection prior to a workout is going to have anywhere vaguely near enough time to metabolize in order to give the type of pump that I got, so I figure the Dbol must be to credit for that, but I was on varying doses for a week. My questions are how long normally is it before significant uptake of the chemicals occurs and what is the typical weight gain curve one expects? Additionally, there are a lot of different opinions on multi-chem stacks for steroid beginners; some say use the Dbol/deca/sust250 concurrently; others talk about test only, some people swear by deca with sust, so I was wondering what comments people had on this issue without opening too many old cans of worms. The stuff I have is what I have to work with, so I can't go above 1 amp sust/wk or really above 200mg deca/wk or exceed 20mg dBol/day and I'm not sure I really want to nor ought to. I have NAC and milk thistle for potential liver toxicity and I know volumes about diet and lifting programs. Also, I'm picking up Clomid and Novaldex for post-cycle/gyno respectively.
So, after getting onto sust250 with or w/o deca, do I really even need DBol or should I roll to a very low dosage? I figure the Dbol did what it said it would do but I have no real idea on what dosage is effective. Given what I have here to work with, what would the recommendations be? Essentially, I have relatively low potential weekly doses of 3 different items, and that would suggest to me that concurrent usage would be my best bet, but I want to hear people's opinions on this. It's not like the gear's gonna rot if I don't use it right now.
