Questions about Deca?

[shamrock11]

I am getting ready to start my first cycle and I was wondering if I could use a 23 gague 1" needle for deca? I would also like to know if this would be proper length and doses to take

1) 250 mg
2) 350 mg
3) 400 mg
4) 500 mg
5) 500 mg
6) 400 mg
7) 350 mg
8) 250 mg
I also plan to follow thiss up with 50 mg clomid for 20 days. Is this an ok cycle or should I make it a ten week cycle. Also, what should I expect from the injection (as far as pain and lumps and things of that nature). Also. how should I train while I am on this cycle? I am doing one body part a week and my sets/excerise are 15 reps, 8 reps and failure (at least 6). I am 5'8, 200 lbs.and 19% body fat. I would like to stay at this weight or a little higher, but don't want to have this much body fat. any help would be greatly appericated. Thanks all of you who reply for your help.

 

[The Shadow]

well....you can usea s lin pin actually.


I dont recommend a Deca only deal unless oyu KNOW what the sides will be - ie limp noodle

 

[tzan]

So basically you want to cut your bf down while maintaing as much muscle as possible. I woldn't use deca for this, especially not alone. I would run primo, since it works very well when on a restricted cal diet(diet is going to be your key here). I wouldn't taper it either. For first cycle you should be happy with the results from:

Primo 300 mgs wks1-10
PCT

 

[DIVISION]

So basically you want to cut your bf down while maintaing as much muscle as possible. I woldn't use deca for this, especially not alone. I would run primo, since it works very well when on a restricted cal diet(diet is going to be your key here). I wouldn't taper it either. For first cycle you should be happy with the results from:

Primo 300 mgs wks1-10
PCT

I disagree my Mexican compadre....

I'd go with a Halotestin/Winny cycle to shred BF% and maintain muscle hardness and density.

Halotestin is the androgenic component and Winstrol is the Anabolic......neither aromatize. You can get the injectible winny to save your liver some of the caustic grip of the 17AA Halo......


DIV

 

[tzan]

I disagree my Mexican compadre....

I'd go with a Halotestin/Winny cycle to shred BF% and maintain muscle hardness and density.

Halotestin is the androgenic component and Winstrol is the Anabolic......neither aromatize. You can get the injectible winny to save your liver some of the caustic grip of the 17AA Halo......


DIV

Since it's a first cycle, I would go with the gear with the least amounts of sides to see how my body reacts. Therefore, primo it would be for me.....

 

[help4john]

What ever happened to the old philosophy "Test only should be everyone's first cycle"? It can't be that outdated.....can it?

 

[DIVISION]

What ever happened to the old philosophy "Test only should be everyone's first cycle"? It can't be that outdated.....can it?

I don't necessarily agree with that assessment.

My first cycles were seperate cycles of Winny and then Deca.

Only after experimenting with the seperate AAS did I try Sustanon.


DIV

 

[UFC22]

Deca was a good first cycle for me. No sides but then again i did not go above 400mg, not to sure if its the best drug for what you want to obtain. 8 wks to me seems to short for a deca cycle. Maybe you should consider NPP instead, heard its the real deal. It depends on the person when it comes to the whole deca-dik situation. It didnt hit me at all.

 

[riverrock]

What ever happened to the old philosophy "Test only should be everyone's first cycle"? It can't be that outdated.....can it?

Yes, I would completely agree with this. I would do a cycle of say Sustanon 500mg per week for 8 weeks. Then, 3 weeks after your last injection (this applies to Sus only here), start your PCT.

 

[The Shadow]

Yes, I would completely agree with this. I would do a cycle of say Sustanon 500mg per week for 8 weeks. Then, 3 weeks after your last injection (this applies to Sus only here), start your PCT.

2 weeks imo - but yep I do agree

 

[mrplunkey]

Mild, test-only first cycles are fantastic. You don't spend a lot of time worrying about sides, and you'll grow like crazy even from a low dose. My first cycle was a 10-weeker with 200 mg of Test Cypionate EW and 4 IU's of HGH/day (5 on / 2 off) and I loved it. Just as a precaution, I did 0.5 mg of Arimdex EoD (overkill, IMO now) but what the heck -- life was good!

 

[DIVISION]

Mild, test-only first cycles are fantastic. You don't spend a lot of time worrying about sides, and you'll grow like crazy even from a low dose. My first cycle was a 10-weeker with 200 mg of Test Cypionate EW and 4 IU's of HGH/day (5 on / 2 off) and I loved it. Just as a precaution, I did 0.5 mg of Arimdex EoD (overkill, IMO now) but what the heck -- life was good!

^^I agree with this.

Smart, compact, steady....



DIV

 

[shamrock11]

Well, I ordered deca because I though it was ok for a first cycle so this is all I have to use for now. I didn't have a lot of money to lose so I was kinda worried. I think I might extend to cycle to 10 weeks and just try to gain some more muscle from the cycle and then work on the body fat after the cycle, sound good? Also, was the dose of clomid ok?

 

[DIVISION]

Well, I ordered deca because I though it was ok for a first cycle so this is all I have to use for now. I didn't have a lot of money to lose so I was kinda worried. I think I might extend to cycle to 10 weeks and just try to gain some more muscle from the cycle and then work on the body fat after the cycle, sound good? Also, was the dose of clomid ok?

You should really wait until you have enough money to make a bulk purchase, that way you save money and you can plan for as many cycles are you want. It's the only way to go, plus you can split the cost with friends if you need to. Living hand to mouth when you plan cycles is not the way to go, holmes.



DIV

 

[shamrock11]

Thaks, I just didn't want to takea chance on my first cycle and get ripped off for a lot of money. I'm going to order in bluk after this cycle if everything goes ok.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I disagree my Mexican compadre....

I'd go with a Halotestin/Winny cycle to shred BF% and maintain muscle hardness and density.

Halotestin is the androgenic component and Winstrol is the Anabolic......neither aromatize. You can get the injectible winny to save your liver some of the caustic grip of the 17AA Halo......


DIV

Dude loves Halo,
Halo is pre-contest only. Yea, it's not elevating your liver enzymes but why advise someone to use it for poss. their first cycle?