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immortalis
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I havent come accross one.
I do know that everytime I had to have a shot in college, man the needle looked like a god damn harpoon! F givin that to myself.
I do know that everytime I had to have a shot in college, man the needle looked like a god damn harpoon! F givin that to myself.
immortalis said:I havent come accross one.
I do know that everytime I had to have a shot in college, man the needle looked like a god damn harpoon! F givin that to myself.
I was just wondering why you can find "anything" online, but I've NEVER seen cortisone shots
njmuscleguy
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immortalis said:I havent come accross one.
I do know that everytime I had to have a shot in college, man the needle looked like a god damn harpoon! F givin that to myself.
is it that bad? I've read that getting those shots can be a bitch, especially in the shoulders.... I'm fighting shoulder problems and have some serious knots in my back, so my chiro and my ortho specialist both suggested the shots.... I guess I'm being too much of a pansy, especially given my AAS lifestlye.... why can't they just administer the shots in the glutes?
so how long do cortisone shots last?
Would this be the same?
Adequan Canine (5 mL bottle)
Click to enlarge: Adequan Canine (5 mL bottle)
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Adequan Canine comes with ONE 5 mL bottle.
FAST ACCESS TO THE JOINTS: Beneficial levels of Adequan are already at work in all major joints within two hours after intramuscular injection, with even greater uptake (up to 73% higher) in joint tissues that are inflamed or diseased.
LONG-TERM EFFECTS: Adequan relieves the pain and disability of joint damage, and the relief has been shown to last up to 6 months or longer.
BREAKS THE DESTRUCTIVE CYCLE: Adequan binds to damaged cartilage and boosts cartilage metabolism, facilitating repair processes. At the same time, it blocks the action of destructive enzymes that promote joint inflammation, break down the synovial fluid, and attack the cartilage.
RENEWS THE JOINT FLUID: Adequan stimulates the synovial membrane to manufacture new synovial fluid to replace the thin, degraded fluid of joint disease. By doing so, Adequan helps lubricate, nourish, and clean the cartilage.
Administration: An initial 8-dose series is recommended: 2 mg/lb intramuscularly twice a week for four weeks. Adequan Canine is packaged in 5 mL (100 mg/mL) multidose vials.
Adequan Canine (5 mL bottle)
Click to enlarge: Adequan Canine (5 mL bottle)
View Larger
Adequan Canine comes with ONE 5 mL bottle.
FAST ACCESS TO THE JOINTS: Beneficial levels of Adequan are already at work in all major joints within two hours after intramuscular injection, with even greater uptake (up to 73% higher) in joint tissues that are inflamed or diseased.
LONG-TERM EFFECTS: Adequan relieves the pain and disability of joint damage, and the relief has been shown to last up to 6 months or longer.
BREAKS THE DESTRUCTIVE CYCLE: Adequan binds to damaged cartilage and boosts cartilage metabolism, facilitating repair processes. At the same time, it blocks the action of destructive enzymes that promote joint inflammation, break down the synovial fluid, and attack the cartilage.
RENEWS THE JOINT FLUID: Adequan stimulates the synovial membrane to manufacture new synovial fluid to replace the thin, degraded fluid of joint disease. By doing so, Adequan helps lubricate, nourish, and clean the cartilage.
Administration: An initial 8-dose series is recommended: 2 mg/lb intramuscularly twice a week for four weeks. Adequan Canine is packaged in 5 mL (100 mg/mL) multidose vials.
njmuscleguy
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ok, this is going to sound hypocritical, but has adequan been used in humans? it seems like a pet med.... not that there's anything wrong with that necessarily *grin*
SwolK
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at the pharmacy you have to have a script for Cortisone, i dont know about the internet.
njmuscleguy,
the shots are not that bad, quit being a pussy
also, they cant put it in the glute because it needs to be injected into or on top of the problem area.
i just had 3 in my shoulder, im trying to avoid another shoulder operation
njmuscleguy,
the shots are not that bad, quit being a pussy
also, they cant put it in the glute because it needs to be injected into or on top of the problem area.
i just had 3 in my shoulder, im trying to avoid another shoulder operation
SwolK
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"glucocorticoids such as CORTISONE are involved in glucose regualtion and protein matabolism.....decrease protein synthesis... also reduce the body immunological and inflammatory response." (thats why they help, reduce inflammation)big_boy_1 said:
it is bad for the joints, so make sure you take in moderation. I would not use deca to cover up an injury, but do agree that NSAIDS may help.
Quiltie said:
Yes
And this injectable is more expensive than the other website's
Is this the SAME as regular corisone
http://www.1800petmeds.com/pdetail.asp?SK=10721
njmuscleguy
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itlnstln said:
the link that Quiltie sent is for prednisone.... the company also carries adequan though (injectable)
http://www.1800petmeds.com/pdetail.asp?SK=10721&SP=dog
njmuscleguy
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SwolK said:at the pharmacy you have to have a script for Cortisone, i dont know about the internet.
njmuscleguy,
the shots are not that bad, quit being a pussy
also, they cant put it in the glute because it needs to be injected into or on top of the problem area.
i just had 3 in my shoulder, im trying to avoid another shoulder operation
3? sounds a bit excessive.... why that many? and how long does a shot last?
njmuscleguy
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itlnstln said:
I don't think that Quiltie or anyone here so far knows bro.... all I can find online is for dog use.... haven't found anything in human use (even anecdotal)... I'd be a little hesitant to try it without at least knowing that a good amount of people take it with few problems
njmuscleguy
New member
itlnstln said:
no, I hear ya.... the stuff sounds like the shit.... curious as to why there isn't a human grade version of it?? or maybe there is?
SwolK
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already had 1 shoulder operation, torn glenoid labrum.njmuscleguy said:
then 1 yr after that operation, i messed up my rotator cuff. they say they cant tell if it is torn or not with the MRI becuase there is lots of inflamation. so they are trying to calm down the inflamation with the cortisone injections to see if that heals the pain or not. Ive been doing physical therapy for about 6 months on it, it has not gotten really any better. im getting frustrated with it.
SwolK
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I just posted this on your other thread too, but here it is incase you read this one first:
of course im not a doc(yet, going to med school for orthopedics)
it does not sound like a torn labrium, as i think that would hurt when throwing.
i would think that if rotator cuffwas torn bad, flat bench and behind neck presses would hurt too...
I would guess impingement. Doc who operated on me told me it is VERY common for bodybuilders. it is when your AC joint (acromioclavicular) is deformed, irregular, not big enough, or any shape out of the norm... and it bascially closes in on the rotator cuff and other lig/tendons, and muscles. therefore, not enough room for everything inside the joint anymore to move freely. things can start to crowd, and become inflammed/or frayed...turning into larger tear's
this type of problem could cause pain in some movements and not in others. Well thats my best guess. you could check out webmd or something for more info, but this is a very common problem for bodybuilders.
If it keeps giving you trouble, i would go see a GOOD orthopediest.
if they give you cortisone injections, then by all means they know what they are doing(thats what they are currently doing to me)
but I would not self administer them because if you do have impingment or a tear, the cortisone may cover the pain up and then you will hurt it even worse...meaning a severly torn rotator cuff surgury is a long recovery.
of course im not a doc(yet, going to med school for orthopedics)
it does not sound like a torn labrium, as i think that would hurt when throwing.
i would think that if rotator cuffwas torn bad, flat bench and behind neck presses would hurt too...
I would guess impingement. Doc who operated on me told me it is VERY common for bodybuilders. it is when your AC joint (acromioclavicular) is deformed, irregular, not big enough, or any shape out of the norm... and it bascially closes in on the rotator cuff and other lig/tendons, and muscles. therefore, not enough room for everything inside the joint anymore to move freely. things can start to crowd, and become inflammed/or frayed...turning into larger tear's
this type of problem could cause pain in some movements and not in others. Well thats my best guess. you could check out webmd or something for more info, but this is a very common problem for bodybuilders.
If it keeps giving you trouble, i would go see a GOOD orthopediest.
if they give you cortisone injections, then by all means they know what they are doing(thats what they are currently doing to me)
but I would not self administer them because if you do have impingment or a tear, the cortisone may cover the pain up and then you will hurt it even worse...meaning a severly torn rotator cuff surgury is a long recovery.
njmuscleguy
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SwolK said:
SwolK: Yup, I know the pills are Rx only and I know the IM needs to be done in the affected area, not the glute.... I was kidding about the glute injection because that's the easiest for me
I'm having alot of problems with my shoulders too... it's been hard pinpointing the exact cause...but we seem to be narrowing down to a few... inflammation of the rotator cuff... some seriously painful knots in my upper back (the muscles are so knotted tight, they cause pain to my neck and shoulder)... and finally, inflammation of the infraspinatus
I'll tell ya what though, after a bunch of MRI's, seeing several specialists, physical therapy, taking NSAID's (nothing worked)... I seem to be getting the most relief from my chiropractor.... and he said that if chiropractic care doesn't relieve the problem completely, then I should consider cortisone injections... so I'm considering the shots if the chiro adjustments don't work 100%
njmuscleguy
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italn: I agree with swolk, you should check to see if it's some sort of impingement.... I didn't read your other post, so I'm not sure what your condition is.... but if you haven't gotten an MRI already, you should... it will show impingement, tendinosis, ac joint arthrosis, any tears (basically everything they found in my shoulders *grin*)... these are very common for lifters...they call it bench-presser's shoulder
tendinitis / inflammation can be easily taken care off (anti-inflammatories)... tears are challenging... impingement, they may or may not be able to do anything about it...chiropractic care might help
tendinitis / inflammation can be easily taken care off (anti-inflammatories)... tears are challenging... impingement, they may or may not be able to do anything about it...chiropractic care might help
SwolK
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you are thinking of Viox. They took Viox and Bextra(which worked good) off the market.itlnstln said:
Supposedly, Celebrex is in the same class as Viox and Bextra. Cox 3 inhibitor(I think?) I dont know if they are currently trying to pull celebrex off the market, they may be...
For me, Voltaren has worked best other than Bextra. I think Voltaren is a Cox 1 inhibitor(again, not sure, but i think)
I take it with a grain of salt. any med(Viox, roids, tylenol....ect...) if taken too long at too high of a dose has the possibility of hurting you. I think Viox was no exception. just my opinion
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racoon_city
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bro thats some serious shit to mess with, where are you feeling pain at?
Adequan is used when animals have bad joint problems, it is meant to be very very good especially when injected close to as possible the area of pain etc. But it is meant to regrow cartlidge and work very well. Could be a problem if you are putting it into a shoulder (delt) joint as it could also grow nose cartlidge, after about 5 to 6 injections of 1 a week there is menat to be a considerable improvement in the joints. The human version is Europe is called Aflutop I think but a weaker version. Some guys on here have used it with no sides and very good results were posted, I cannot find it anywhere or would be using it now, I asked my shoulder surgeon if he would give me the human version and he said go back to the doctor and ask him as he will only do an operation.
