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[markshark]

im about 7 weeks out from my last cycle and just finished my pct w/ 20 mg nolva a day for about 2 weeks. since i stopped taking the nolva ive been gettin real horny, kinda like when i was on cycle. is this an indication that my test levels have been somewhat restored?

 

[boops]

im about 7 weeks out from my last cycle and just finished my pct w/ 20 mg nolva a day for about 2 weeks. since i stopped taking the nolva ive been gettin real horny, kinda like when i was on cycle. is this an indication that my test levels have been somewhat restored?

well its an indication something is going on but i wouldnt chalk that up to a guess and if it were me id get some blood work and know for sure whats up....

 

[markshark]

well its an indication something is going on but i wouldnt chalk that up to a guess and if it were me id get some blood work and know for sure whats up....

yea i plan on bloodwork in a week or 2 before i do another cycle to make sure everything is cool.

 

[boops]

yea i plan on bloodwork in a week or 2 before i do another cycle to make sure everything is cool.

sounds good bro, post up the results and the cycle you completed.....always nice to see how things react in people....

 

[markshark]

sounds good bro, post up the results and the cycle you completed.....always nice to see how things react in people....

pretty basic but just wanted to gain strength and some size. this is what i just completed:

wk 1-12: test cyp 750 mg/wk
wk 1-8 deca 300 mg/wk
wk 14-16: nolva 20mg/day

went from 176 lbs with 14% bf to 182 lbs w/ 8% bf, awesome strength increases and pumps. gained about 75 lbs on my bench, 90 lbs on squats and 95 lbs on deadlifts. nothing too crazy, was happy i was able to gain the strength i wanted without much bloating and the drop in bf was one of the best parts as well. not one side effect the entire time except a little aggression and lots of horniness. slept a little better on cycle too. my next cycle will go like this:

wk 1-10: test e 500 mg/wk
wk 1-10: test prop 100 mg/eod
wk 7-12 winny 50 mg/day
-will be eating a lot cleaner, lots of calories and less carbs, a little more cardio and still lifting heavy. goals are mainly to gain strength and cut up as much as possible. ive never used winny or prop before so im lookin forward to it.

 

[boops]

pretty basic but just wanted to gain strength and some size. this is what i just completed:

wk 1-12: test cyp 750 mg/wk
wk 1-8 deca 300 mg/wk
wk 14-16: nolva 20mg/day

went from 176 lbs with 14% bf to 182 lbs w/ 8% bf, awesome strength increases and pumps. gained about 75 lbs on my bench, 90 lbs on squats and 95 lbs on deadlifts. nothing too crazy, was happy i was able to gain the strength i wanted without much bloating and the drop in bf was one of the best parts as well. not one side effect the entire time except a little aggression and lots of horniness. slept a little better on cycle too. my next cycle will go like this:

wk 1-10: test e 500 mg/wk
wk 1-10: test prop 100 mg/eod
wk 7-12 winny 50 mg/day
-will be eating a lot cleaner, lots of calories and less carbs, a little more cardio and still lifting heavy. goals are mainly to gain strength and cut up as much as possible. ive never used winny or prop before so im lookin forward to it.

congrats on what you accomplished and the "basic cycles" are the ones that to me work the best.....i always liked winnys effects just wasnt fond of the way it killed the HDL but i guess you take the good with the bad...and as for prop i experienced pain and swelling with injections and i experimented injecting it all over just to see how painful it would be, it wasnt killer like some people make it out to be but it didnt tickle either so just see how you react to it....gains with prop were pretty good but thats how it is with all test for me lol....

 

[scout69]

Have lots of sex, hey take advantage of the little man wanting to go....

 

[Makavelli]

Mark, there's no point in using prop when you're already using ent.

 

[boops]

Mark, there's no point in using prop when you're already using ent.

well i dont see why he couldnt do it, i thought you just got done using ugvets duotest that is cyp and prop....now while hes doing seperate shots of the stuff and yours was a combo its still the same thing, perhaps he wants a little quick kick in time and then just doesnt want to drop the prop and have blood levels become uneven....

 

[Makavelli]

well i dont see why he couldnt do it, i thought you just got done using ugvets duotest that is cyp and prop....now while hes doing seperate shots of the stuff and yours was a combo its still the same thing, perhaps he wants a little quick kick in time and then just doesnt want to drop the prop and have blood levels become uneven....

The only reason I used it was because the deal I got I could not turn down. Otherwise I just would have used ent. I don't believe there's a need to add it in if it's not already in there. There isn't a benefit. I had to throw my cycle together quickly, so I did what I had to do.

About the blood levels dropping, that's what happens when you use an oral at the front along with a long acting injectable. When you drop the oral, the long acting should be in full effect. I can see using it the first 4 weeks, but after that I don't see the point.

 

[boops]

The only reason I used it was because the deal I got I could not turn down. Otherwise I just would have used ent. I don't believe there's a need to add it in if it's not already in there. There isn't a benefit. I had to throw my cycle together quickly, so I did what I had to do.

About the blood levels dropping, that's what happens when you use an oral at the front along with a long acting injectable. When you drop the oral, the long acting should be in full effect. I can see using it the first 4 weeks, but after that I don't see the point.

fair enough bro, wasnt attacking ya there in anyway just thought you had used a cyp prop combo and was confused to your response but now i understand what your saying....its all individualistic.......

 

[Its All Genetics]

The only reason I used it was because the deal I got I could not turn down. Otherwise I just would have used ent. I don't believe there's a need to add it in if it's not already in there. There isn't a benefit. I had to throw my cycle together quickly, so I did what I had to do.

About the blood levels dropping, that's what happens when you use an oral at the front along with a long acting injectable. When you drop the oral, the long acting should be in full effect. I can see using it the first 4 weeks, but after that I don't see the point.

while those are good explanations of why u used that combo... i still dont see whut wrong with running the two side by side for the first 4 weeks and the last 4 weeks....


the test part of my next cycle will looking something like this

1-4 test prop 100mgs eod
1-12 test enth 600mgs ew
10-14 prop 100mgs eod


its like kick stating with ur own cocktail sust its gotta the only two test forms i care about prop and enth

 

[LVTitan]

i dont see how 2weeks of nolva only as a pct could have recovered him from long test cycle with deca in there... any one else think of this ???

 

[Outtlaw]

Mark, there's no point in using prop when you're already using ent.

For real. You're gonna run prop along side enanthate for the entire cycle... that makes NO sense.

 

[markshark]

Mark, there's no point in using prop when you're already using ent.

actually im switching to trenabol200

heres what it will look like

wk 1-12: test e 500mg/wk
wk1-12: trenabol 200mg/wk
wk 7-14: winny 50mg/day

just a basic one i dont have the money or experience to do some crazy huge complex cycle. just found out my tren is on its way so im gonna use that and save the prop. possibly use it for the first 4 weeks as a kicker and end the last 5 weeks with winny and keep the test e and tren 200 throughout.

 

[markshark]

just got blood tests done and everything is good. i got everything and plan on this as my next cycle:

wk 1-10: test e 500mg/wk
wk 1-8 tren e 400 mg/wk
wk 8-12: winny 50mg/ed

have nolva and a-dex on hand incase of sides, have lunesta incase insomnia gets bad.

not a crazy cycle but my first go around with tren and winny. i realize maybe i should have gotten tren ace for the first time but i couldnt find it anywhere and had reasonable acess to tren e so i opted for that. i was thinkin that running it alongside test e would help with libido sides.