Question on UG purity....

[abomb]

I think it would be safe to say that most UG labs are using powders from China, right? If you had a UG tested and the mg/ml results came back fairly accurate, does that mean that the purity of the powder is accurate? Let's say that a UG Test Cyp was advertised to be 250 mg/ml, you send it off for testing and it comes back within 5% of it's claimed mg/ml (237 mg/ml). If the raw material is cheap should the user expect the same results of a pharmaceutical grade anabolic, since the mg/ml is probably about the same?

I guess my question is...just because a UG tested to have "X" amount of raw material, does that warrent a claim of "good quality". Let's face it, quality should be the most important variable when deciding on what UG to use right?

How can one test a UG's quality of raw materials? I guess it boils down to trial and error.

 

[mikefear]

too much analysis for me.

 

[black sheep]

For instance Stallion Labs mexico - they have every batch of powder tested for purity before making the product. This way they can properly dose, as well as be sure the powder supplier did not make a mistake and send the wrong product. This is something I have never heard of small operations doing, so you never really know what you are getting.

If you get properly dosed / sterile gear - it is going to work as well as anything. It is apples and apples if clean, sterile, and properly dosed. The differences then lie in how much BA/BB was used, what type of carrier oil, etc. There are so many variables that make one company different/better/worse than another.

A good company has a sterile enviornment and does not need 5% ba to assure the products are clean. This is why some UG products hurt like hell (such as Stealth). Stallion uses only 2% BA on most products, therefore they are know to be rather pain free. I assume LSP does the same, as I have never heard of them being painful either. If you are going to go for non-human grade gear; I would stick with Stallion or LSP. Those are big name companies that are not made in some guys kitchen.

Just my .02

 

[abomb]

If you get properly dosed / sterile gear - it is going to work as well as anything. It is apples and apples if clean, sterile, and properly dosed.

I agree - are Stallion labs or LSP importing their raw materials from China? I really don't expect you to know that answer.

 

[justinjones1963]

I homebrew so I test every batch of powders for all injectables. My stuff comes in at 99%+ pure. My powders come from Europe though - not china. I have read that EQ & var coming out of china is like 80% pure. This is just from word of mouth though so I am not trasking China powders. I've also read that people have no clue what the other 20% is.

 

[black sheep]

I homebrew so I test every batch of powders for all injectables. My stuff comes in at 99%+ pure. My powders come from Europe though - not china. I have read that EQ & var coming out of china is like 80% pure. This is just from word of mouth though so I am not trasking China powders. I've also read that people have no clue what the other 20% is.

This is not true. I have var powder from China and it tested over 98% pure by SRCS. This is the only way I can afford to run 80-100mg ed of var in all of my cycles

 

[abomb]

Thats the problem with Chinese powder though. Just because the current batch of Var that you got tested good doesn't mean the next batch won't be crap.

Hey BS do you know where Stallion Labs get's their raw material?

 

[black sheep]

Thats the problem with Chinese powder though. Just because the current batch of Var that you got tested good doesn't mean the next batch won't be crap.

Hey BS do you know where Stallion Labs get's their raw material?

I disagree about chinese powder. It depends on the supplier. There are tons of places to get powders from, and you are right about the general chinese powder market. However I know 2 chinese powder sources that have their products tested for purity before selling, and one discloses the exact purity of each product.

As for Stallion I do not know where they get raw materials. I do know they have them tested before the make their gear though.

 

[chestmaster1]

For instance Stallion Labs mexico - they have every batch of powder tested for purity before making the product. This way they can properly dose, as well as be sure the powder supplier did not make a mistake and send the wrong product. This is something I have never heard of small operations doing, so you never really know what you are getting.

If you get properly dosed / sterile gear - it is going to work as well as anything. It is apples and apples if clean, sterile, and properly dosed. The differences then lie in how much BA/BB was used, what type of carrier oil, etc. There are so many variables that make one company different/better/worse than another.

A good company has a sterile enviornment and does not need 5% ba to assure the products are clean. This is why some UG products hurt like hell (such as Stealth). Stallion uses only 2% BA on most products, therefore they are know to be rather pain free. I assume LSP does the same, as I have never heard of them being painful either. If you are going to go for non-human grade gear; I would stick with Stallion or LSP. Those are big name companies that are not made in some guys kitchen.


Just my .02

Have you tried stealth? I don't get any pain from it

 

[black sheep]

Have you tried stealth? I don't get any pain from it

Yes I did - and YES I DID! There have been tons of complaints about it being painful. Hell even Anthony Roberts, who is their mouthpiece, says he cuts it with b12 or sterile oil. WTF kind of gear is that?!?!?!?!!?

 

[abomb]

Yeah I would say that 9 out of 10 users have painful injects from Stealth. That is a whole other subject.

 

[black sheep]

I say - Stick with Human Grade, Stallion or LSP. I am not even a fan of BD after some lab tests I have seen, not to mention the knock offs. If you Stay with one of those 3 - you know your purity is good.