One question how do you know if the supps are doing anything.i see posts from people who take 1-ad or 1-test or nordiol whatever they say they gained 10 pounds or whatever but then they say they increased there cals to 4,000.1-ad or no 1-ad if you eat 4,000 cals a day you will gain weight. One thread i read where someone took 1-ad and he gained 7 pounds. but then said his bodyfat went up and his muscle to fat ratio was 1 to 6 which means he gained fat.But he said he loved it etc. Even yohimburn i see people say after 2-3 bottles your face is so lean but 2-3 bottles is allot and in that time period it could of been anything.Itried super one+ at 24 squirts a day at under 3,500 cals and saw nothing.Can someone explain to me how you know if its the cals or the supp. I mean i know people on aas who didnt eat a whole lot of protein and they still got big and not fat.