question on 4-ad and nor-4-ad

[fiz]

I'm considering using 4-ad or nor-4-ad

I'm greatly concerned about aromatase to estrogen and gyno b/c i have slight puffy nipples already

I'm aware that 4-ad can't directly convert to estrogen, but its still possible that the test itself can.

is 4-ad the safest pro-hormone? what about nor-4-ad.. i hear nor-4-ad is "fake" testosterone but still offers equal gains.. not really as sure about the nor

which is safest/most effective?

thanks

 

[Dante B.]

If you have puffy nipples, then you may wish to avoid both compounds. 19-Nor converts to NorTestosterone, which can still aromatize to Estrogen (just at a lesser so rate than Test).

4-Diol is generally the best all-around PH as in terms of side-effects, and muscular gains. However in your case you should be careful. It could, however, be taken with an anti-Estrogen/anti-Aromatase.

1-Test is another option, and although it won't lead one to incur Gyno, it can make way against the hair-line in those susceptible.

 

[fiz]

you're saying 1-test can't aromatise.. but 4-ad can?

I heard 4-ad is chemically engineered so it's impossible to aromatise directly, even though the test itself can change..

is 1-test the same as 1-ad? are you sure theres been NO cases of gyno at all? i havent heard any for 4-ad but im still concerned