question for the geeks - .NET

[HappyScrappy]

How long has .NET been around? I thought it was about a year, but I saw something that wants 2-3 years experience... has it really been around that long?

talk to me sister.

I've used all that shit before, just not the .NET flavor b/c we are all Java here now.

 

[Code]

>net hasn't even been released yet.

It is more likely they are refering to the new .NET dcom technology and maybe C#.

the DCOM stuff for .net have been around for four years now. C#, I think has been around for 2.

I read a want ad that asked for someone with 7 years experience in XML.

 

[HappyScrappy]

XML has theoretically been around for a very very long time. but nobody has been doing anything with it until the last 3 or 4.

I saw on looking for 5 years experience with Win2K... I liked that.

this one is looking for someone that knows ADO, ASP, SQL, VB all in the .Net env.
I know all that stuff inside and out, but have never even looked that .Net version - but I would assume that it is similar.

 

[cure]

I'm a webmaster with amazing web designing and search engine optimization skills and it bothers me when companies ask for the following..

A web designer who has the following,
- html
- flash
- photoshop
- illustrator
- javascript
- vbscript
- asp
- php
- xml
- mySQL
- MSSQL

Like common...spend some fucking money and get yourself 2 people to do that job. I have still not met 1 programmer who could do an outstanding job when it comes to designing and certain guidelines.

 

[HappyScrappy]

lol - well then meet me

I was an art major and can code all that shit and use all the progs.

the new illustrator scripting is fun too

(I'd rather do "real" programming though than web stuff, since the money for the web stuff is quickly disappearing)

 

[smallmovesal]

you finally learned how to use illustrator?

 

[HappyScrappy]

I didn't just learn, I became wicked pissa ninja class level III on it.
a new high score!!!

yay

 

[naturally anabolic]

im a webgeek burnout

 

[smallmovesal]

I didn't just learn, I became wicked pissa ninja class level III on it.
a new high score!!!

yay

wicked pissa. good job on that poncho... i'm proud of ya.

 

[sigweed]

wtf is this .NET thing you speak of. Are you just talking about website domains, like www.jomama.net?

 

[HappyScrappy]

no - it is a VM that MS developed that allows different code types to be executed in this space - it is to compete with people doing the same shit in Java.

the only good side of the idea is that it allows people to stick to code that they know how to write and it will work with other types - but a VM means it will be slower unless they have a JIT addition (which I assume they do or will)

 

[Code]

Naw, DotNet is MS's unreleased OS.

It basically revolves around subscription based licensing rather than flat fee.

meaning if you pay a subscription fee, you get all the patches/updates for free and never have to install them (it happens automatically).

They plan to push this out to thigns like MS Office as well.

 

[sigweed]

i dont want an OS that i can't get burnt for $5 and never have to worry about again

 

[HappyScrappy]

Naw, DotNet is MS's unreleased OS.

It basically revolves around subscription based licensing rather than flat fee.

meaning if you pay a subscription fee, you get all the patches/updates for free and never have to install them (it happens automatically).

They plan to push this out to thigns like MS Office as well.

hmm - really?
from a programmer's perspective it is a Virtual Machine - perhaps from the end user's view it is the OS - don't know.
all I know is what I said was the description I recall reading off of the MS site when I looked to see what the big deal was for it and how the code was (if at all) different.

 

[Code]

Yeah, it's different because all the DCOM and APIs and shit are now COM+ or something.

I think.

 

[Puc]

eeek!!!

it is microsoft rebranding everything they have done before. it includes a java-like vm (with my personal favorite part, a compiled (vm compiled) object-oriented web development platform so that thin client stuff can finally perform and scale!!)
they are moving to software licensing, and other poo like previously mentioned as well.
also multiple language compiling into the same bit codes.

HS, i though there already was JIT occuring? at least i read that somewhere...

 

[HappyScrappy]

yeah, I would assume they already have the JIT - VMs are retardedly slow without them - that is why Java gets such a bad rap b/c it took it awhile to get a good JIT system in place.
it is now just as fast as C++ for many things

 

[HappyScrappy]

yes they have a JIT its a pretty good one to

thus, its not a VM per se

??
okay, so it is a pretty good one - but how does that then negate the VM? Java runs in a VM and has a great JIT implementation.

and a quick check on the MS .Net site shows... it runs in a virtual machine, so perhaps you meant something else.

 

[CaptainMouse]

I hope it comes out soon. When I .fish I can't use a .pole, so I have to use the .net, but since it has not been released, well...

 

[Code]

What the hell, a JIT that doesn't use a VM????

Umm, check your school books again please.

 

[WODIN]

VB.net was released last month. I have a copy.

 

[TheProject]

I hope it comes out soon. When I .fish I can't use a .pole, so I have to use the .net, but since it has not been released, well...