Question for Nelson

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Nelson,
Was doing some research on the ingredients in Unleashed and came across this article from The American Society of Pharmacognosy. It was from a newsletter issue in 2004. What's your thoughts on this? I'm new to alot of this stuff and often see conflicting info. when reading on the web. Can you give me your insight on this?
Toxic Herb Alert
The herb Xanthoparmelia scabrosa,
found in several male sexual enhancement
products sold as Viagra alternatives targeted
toward health foods stores and marketed on the
Internet, has been shown to contain a toxic
ester, according to the National Nurtritional
Foods Association-Midwest Region (NNFAMW).
The NNFA-MW is calling on all dietary
supplements suppliers and natural products
retailers to investigate the products in their
inventories, which may contain Xanthoparmelia
scabrosa, and to seek legal advice to determine if
they should continue to sell these products.
Accoring to the NNFA-MW, FDA and FTC
know this herb is toxic. Xanthoparmelia scabrosa
has been researched since 1978.
Australian National University’s
department of chemistry and its Jon Curtin School
of Medical Research have published articles on
the cytotoxic activity of the esters of this herb.
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[2raptors]

my question is...if it's been researched since 1978....and was found to be toxic then....why is this just coming out NOW? Something is missing.

 

[Nelson Montana]

This has been covered before. This has actually been investigated by several organizations and the FDA got involved as well and found absolutely no toxicity at recommended dosages, IN FACT, the same lichens in xanthoparmillia (which can be toxic is superphysiological dosages) have also be shown to KILL CANCER CELLS.

The toxic does has been determined at one gram a day for a month -- TO RATS. That's equililant to about 3 pounds a day to humans. So yeah, don't eat 3 pounds a day of it.

The AMP are a bit of an alarmist group and have pointed out the supposed dangers in thousands of substances used every day. As with any natural substance, it usually contains something that in megdoses can be toxic.

Xanthoparmilia has been used for hundreds of years in China with no problems and after there hasn't been a single case of toxicity reported from its use. As with any herb, or drug, or anything that actually works, do not use it if you have kidney disease, liver or heart problems or high blood pressure. Other than that, you're good to go.

 

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Nelson, Thanks.. Hopefully product will be arriving today or tomorrow. Will definitely keep you posted on results. As always thanks alot for feedback.

 

[needtogetarmy]

Nelson, Thanks.. Hopefully product will be arriving today or tomorrow. Will definitely keep you posted on results. As always thanks alot for feedback.

It would be neat if someone got before and after blood work done.

 

[2raptors]

I'm planning on doing blood work RIGHT AFTER my as cycle...then going on PCT with Unleashed and Post Cycle, maybe "sustain" as well....and do a test mid and post PCT as well to see where I'm at.

I like the feeling of power being on AS for the first time...very "invigorating"...but I really don't think i'm going to invest in being a beast (at least until the heat is off) so I'm hoping for a good, natural alternative.... I definately post once I'm done...i'm interested too...