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question for "experienced" Proviron users

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The many times that you have used cycles and incorporated Proviron into your cycle. Have you really noticed ANY difference at all compared to using a cycle WITHOUT proviron?

If so...what were the differences?
 
Bloat and no bloat was the most obvious...
 
Ive used it one time on a cycle & the only thing I noticed was a definite almost immediate increase in my sex drive @ 50mg ed split
 
C.K. said:
Bloat and no bloat was the most obvious...
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I'm with him on this one, however acne/no acne was another one for me and oh yeah, the sex drive, unbelievable, though when it is used for longer cycles it stops working at that dosage and you have to up it, like I am now on 150mg ED for the last 6 weeks cutting with tren, test prop and equipoise after being on Proviron for 10 weeks at 100mg ED and well what can I say it really is working wonders with the water, is beautiful. Getting prostate checked soon though, just in case.
 
Carth said:
The many times that you have used cycles and incorporated Proviron into your cycle. Have you really noticed ANY difference at all compared to using a cycle WITHOUT proviron?

If so...what were the differences?
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I use it often,,,In most cycles. I notice a marked increase in hardness,,,anti e properties (less bloats,,estro sides) and a definite increase in libido.
75mg daily is what works for me.
 
50mgs is just enough to keep me dry 100mgs makes me feel like a pornstar haha :evil:
 
considering that i am a pornstar it makes me feel like myself... lol jk. i love that ish tho, i'm using mast this time instead tho.
 
I am on cycle now and I started proviron 3 days ago at 50md ed.
I dont feel anything yet my libido was kinda high when it was test prop only,then I added NPP at 100 mg EOD and my libido disappeared 3 days ago added proviron and nothing yet.
So I hope it kick in later
 
babushka said:
I am on cycle now and I started proviron 3 days ago at 50md ed.
I dont feel anything yet my libido was kinda high when it was test prop only,then I added NPP at 100 mg EOD and my libido disappeared 3 days ago added proviron and nothing yet.
So I hope it kick in later
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IMHO 50mg-75mg is a therapeutic dosage of Proviron not a bodybuilding one, 100mg or higher is the sweet spot again IMHO.
 
Well, I just started taking 750mgs of Test Cyp 3 days ago. I also been taking 75mgs of Proviron ED. I'm going with 25mgs per 250mgs of Test. That's just me...don't know if I'm right or wrong. And since I already have a fucked up thyroid and take thyroid meds for life! I slightly increased my Synthroid and Cytomel dose from 175mcgs/12.5mcgs to now 200mcgs/25mcgs. By doing this it will bring my T4 7 points over the top limit. And my T3 30 points over the top limit. I'm doing this to try to keep water/fat down to a minimal.

BTW...NOT trying to gain massive amounts of weight. I'm weighing now 185lbs and all I want to do is gain around 10-12lbs of lean muscle. THAT'S ALL!

So....with the Test, Proviron and Thyroid meds. Is there a need to add in a anti-aromatize? Gyno is not an issue with me. My concern is putting on water/fat that I don't want. And I sure as hell DO NOT want to risk losing whatever libido I have by taking in an anti-aromatize.

Opinions????
 
I have always wondered: If you have a lot of "bound" up test from running test a long time, and you take proviron, which "frees" up this bound test, does all that "free" test now start to aromatize and convert into estrogen? I don't take an anti-e and I'm on HRT at 150mg test cyp a week but after taking proviron I notice water retention a little bit, like all the test that was previously bound up to SHBG freed itself and started to convert to estrogen. Could this be?
 
wolfman87 said:
considering that i am a pornstar it makes me feel like myself... lol jk. i love that ish tho, i'm using mast this time instead tho.
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How does it compare? Im running it next cycle sust and mast...
 
Para_Shoot said:
I have always wondered: If you have a lot of "bound" up test from running test a long time, and you take proviron, which "frees" up this bound test, does all that "free" test now start to aromatize and convert into estrogen? I don't take an anti-e and I'm on HRT at 150mg test cyp a week but after taking proviron I notice water retention a little bit, like all the test that was previously bound up to SHBG freed itself and started to convert to estrogen. Could this be?
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Ummm quite the opposite proviron kept me dry but the test always gave me that pumped look dont confuse that with bloat...
 
C.K. said:
Ummm quite the opposite proviron kept me dry but the test always gave me that pumped look dont confuse that with bloat...
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I think your right! I do feel "pumped up" more when on proviron, perhaps equating that with a little bloat, but it's really not. Thats exactly what I'm experiencing.
 
The so called "hardness" that proviron gives is only going to be evident in someone in single digit BF%. Sorry to bust that myth.

And for those of you claiming it increased your libido, well maybe if you were using proviron by itself and nothing else. But if you are trying to say that you are using a basic amount of synthetic test in your cycle and didn't notice an increase in libido until starting proviron... well something is wrong with your test. You telling me that 50mg proviron daily is going to affect your sex drive more than 400mg+ test weekly?

Pffffttt.
 
AAP said:
The so called "hardness" that proviron gives is only going to be evident in someone in single digit BF%. Sorry to bust that myth.

And for those of you claiming it increased your libido, well maybe if you were using proviron by itself and nothing else. But if you are trying to say that you are using a basic amount of synthetic test in your cycle and didn't notice an increase in libido until starting proviron... well something is wrong with your test. You telling me that 50mg proviron daily is going to affect your sex drive more than 400mg+ test weekly?

Pffffttt.
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What about if that measly 50mg of proviron frees up a lot of that bound up test from 400mg a week? That won't have an effect on libido?
 
AAP said:
The so called "hardness" that proviron gives is only going to be evident in someone in single digit BF%. Sorry to bust that myth.

And for those of you claiming it increased your libido, well maybe if you were using proviron by itself and nothing else. But if you are trying to say that you are using a basic amount of synthetic test in your cycle and didn't notice an increase in libido until starting proviron... well something is wrong with your test. You telling me that 50mg proviron daily is going to affect your sex drive more than 400mg+ test weekly?

Pffffttt.
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I definitely got an increase in libido from my test, but noticed a definite increase above that when I started the prov @ 50mg ed. Only used it once but personally I was impressed with it. Im on prop/mast right now. Isnt mast supposed to do what prov does but do it even better?
 
Am' doing a Test only cycle currently and running 1050mgs of Test ew. Added Proviron at 50mgs to the cycle and my God, strength levels immediately went up. It must definitely be the freed up T. I'm not too concerned with the bloat factor here as i'm running adex at .5mgs ed for the same and that is taking care of things pretty well.

Libido is another thing altogether with Proviron. Man does dickster want to work it !! And multiple times ed :evil: Makes the sh*t even better to run.

Have upped my dosages currently to 75mgs ed and will be pushing it to 100mgs after a week.

People speak of hairloss and prostrate issues, but thankfully i'm facing none. Although for prostrate health, i've always taken Gokshura ( Small Caltrops ) everyday alongwith my regular supplementation regime.

Proviron is unbeatable for shbg purposes and freeing up Test. Personal experience.
 
I am taking my words back!!! 100ed proviron works.
It completely dried me out, no bloat,libido went up big time also.
It took about 1 week to kick in
 
Ok brothers. Here's the deal so far. Been on 250mgs of Test Cyp a week for already a long ass time. I simply felt it was doing nothing at all (I'll explain later on). Decided to take 25mgs of Proviron ED along with the Test. Didn't really see or feel any difference. Then I said to hell with this! Going to start taking 100mgs DAILY. Within a week (no lie). I felt more alert and motivated. My confidence level went through the roof! My brain power increased a lot! And people started telling me that I looked more swole or bigger or pumped up. Asking me what was I eating more? Or what I was taking? etc etc. And that first week that I went from 25mgs to 100mgs....I didn't even train that whole week! Hell! I didn't even change my diet! I did NOTHING AT ALL! After people started telling me this is when I realized that clothes were fitting me a bit tighter.

And I'm starting to get hard ons at the wrong times! Argh! I hate that! LOL Why in public Mr. Dick? Why? Why now?! Why do you want to get hard for NO REASON AT ALL while I'm out in public! LOL
 
And I quote myself "50mgs is just enough to keep me dry 100mgs makes me feel like a pornstar haha" don't knock on it till you try it :evil:
 
I don't really notice an increase in libido on it. It does seem to dry me out though because I notice my face looking leaner and less bloated than without it.

I'm kind of in the camp of stay off anti-e's unless you need them or are seriously dieting.
 
Ok so...it seems like we all are agreeing on something. 100mgs is the sweet spot. No? I was "thinking" of going down to 75mgs ED instead of 100mgs. Just to "try" to save money. It's not like this stuff is cheap you know!
 
If anyone is kind enough to tell me where they get their LEGIT proviron from and cheap. Please let me know. I got the real stuff. Both from Schering and Bayer. But I paid the full REAL price for it. And taking 4 tabs a day is financially killing me. Know what I mean? ;-)
 
Why get anything else if you have access to the real thing, though it is expensive and I understand your concern and fully grasp the gravity of the situation, some people would kill to have what you have, I get the same, but I'm in South America and I can pretty much pick it up at the pharmacy with no prescription, but I have other options and I wouldn't change my arrangement for anything!! Pharm grade if at all possible is the way to go... Always, IMHO.
 
GrownUp said:
Why get anything else if you have access to the real thing, though it is expensive and I understand your concern and fully grasp the gravity of the situation, some people would kill to have what you have, I get the same, but I'm in South America and I can pretty much pick it up at the pharmacy with no prescription, but I have other options and I wouldn't change my arrangement for anything!! Pharm grade if at all possible is the way to go... Always, IMHO.
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ALWAYS! I never bother with anything UG! NEVER!!!! Blood work has proven to me over and over and over again. That all UG shit is shit! It's inconsistent. It's not always underdosed. Sometimes gear that is OVER dosed isn't what I wanted. Then people start to wonder why they getting nasty side effects.
 
Hold up! This shit isn't finished here bros! LOL We are all agreeing that 100mgs is the sweet spot. However! What else are you guys running this 100mgs of Proviron with? And at what doses?
 
I am running test prop 150mg/eod NPP150mg/EOD and 100mg ED of proviron,nice dry mass.
I am running out of money for proviron (
 
Ozzie87 said:
oh sorry, 500mg HG sust man.

it was my 2nd cycle, and my first run with test which may explain why i felt 50mg so much.

wish i could have afforded some for my current cycle.......
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I think you FELT it simply because it was your first run with Test brother. LOL Test will do that. Especially for the first time! :-)
 
Carth said:
Hold up! This shit isn't finished here bros! LOL We are all agreeing that 100mgs is the sweet spot. However! What else are you guys running this 100mgs of Proviron with? And at what doses?
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500 mgs sust within minutes of popping it I'd have a semi all day hehehe I ran it into PCT and nothing! Which just goes to show it's useless without test...
 
i've been running my proviron at 50mg ed for 9 weeks now. my cycle is:
600mg test-e split ew
450mg deca split ew
50mg proviron ed

i can't say i've really noticed anything from the proviron just because the deca has been turning me into a monster. i'm dropping off deca at the end of week 10 and running 2 more weeks of test-e and proviron. all this talk about the "100mg sweet spot" is making me want to up my dose for the last few weeks. also i've noticed a slight "puff" in my nipples but this just started now at week 9! i'm adding in .5mg adex eod and .625mg bromo ed to see if this puffiness goes away. i have letro but i don't want to get crazy with anything seeing as how i've only got a week left of deca anyway and i know i don't get estro sides from test so it's got to be prolactin gyno (if it's even gyno at all)

any thoughts?
 
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