Question for competitive guys

[silverbackn]

I am a competitive guy. I have only done one show, I plan on doing many more. My question is how much of the year are you guys on and what approximate dosages? Obviously, these will vary based on your competitive level, drug experience,etc. Just curious to what kind of cycles you guys are using.

 

[Lowest]

Did my first 2 this past summer, along with a friend of mine. I took about 4 months off after the shows. I just started my winter bulker, 1g/week of test enth. When that ends, I'll probably just cruise for a few weeks then go straight into cutting for summer. Cutting will be eq at 6-800mg/week, tren enth 400mg/week, then adding in winny or masteron towards the end.

 

[silverbackn]

Did my first 2 this past summer, along with a friend of mine. I took about 4 months off after the shows. I just started my winter bulker, 1g/week of test enth. When that ends, I'll probably just cruise for a few weeks then go straight into cutting for summer. Cutting will be eq at 6-800mg/week, tren enth 400mg/week, then adding in winny or masteron towards the end.

Sounds pretty solid to me. What did you diet on? I have never used tren before. I dieted on a gram of test for the first four weeks, then the last six weeks was prop and winny. Honestly I only really dieted for 6 weeks though, I just cleaned it up and still ate as much as I could for the first four weeks. I was 215 at the early weigh ins. I am 6'1 though.

 

[Lowest]

Dieted on prop/tren/t3/clen/eca. Found out I'm immune to clen, so I switched to phentermine to replace it, MUCH better. Didn't see anything from the T3 that I could tell either, I don't think I used enough. Added winny at 30mg/day the last 6 weeks. I was about 167lbs at weigh-in, but I'm only 5'5". Next year I plan to be closer to 180... maybe 176 and still be middleweight if I can get that low without sacrificing size.

 

[silverbackn]

Dieted on prop/tren/t3/clen/eca. Found out I'm immune to clen, so I switched to phentermine to replace it, MUCH better. Didn't see anything from the T3 that I could tell either, I don't think I used enough. Added winny at 30mg/day the last 6 weeks. I was about 167lbs at weigh-in, but I'm only 5'5". Next year I plan to be closer to 180... maybe 176 and still be middleweight if I can get that low without sacrificing size.

How much difference did the phentermine and t3 make? I didn't use them last year. All I used was ephedrine and winstrol the last 5 weeks. Have you dieted without the t3 and stuff before? Did you look better in comparison or did it string you out?

 

[Lowest]

T3 I couldn't tell any difference, I only used 25mcg/day and I don't think that's enough for me. The phentermine was great, killed my carb cravings without killing all my appetite, and gave me energy to hit cardio and keep lifting heavy. I looked better dieting with phentermine than with just ECA stack, switching them back and forth kept me from getting used to either.

 

[concordsize]

lowest is right about the t3 most people dont see true fat burning effects till they go about 75mcg. Everyone should work there way up because you may start burning fat at 50mcg ect ect.

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[ATLmuscles]

Dieted on prop/tren/t3/clen/eca. Found out I'm immune to clen, so I switched to phentermine to replace it, MUCH better. Didn't see anything from the T3 that I could tell either, I don't think I used enough. Added winny at 30mg/day the last 6 weeks. I was about 167lbs at weigh-in, but I'm only 5'5". Next year I plan to be closer to 180... maybe 176 and still be middleweight if I can get that low without sacrificing size.

What do you mean, "immune to clen?" It didn't have any effect on you? That's weird, I've never heard of that. Was it legit?

As for the original post, I like GH, Test. Prop, EQ and Primo when I start cutting. used primo in a cutting cycle for the first time this year, and I was amazed. Seemed to be getting leaner while maintaining weight. It is great in a calorie-restricted diet, as is Test. Prop. I'll switch off the primo for Winny getting closer to a show, then stop all oils two weeks out.

Also use cynomel, with clen cycled with eca, switching every two weeks.

 

[Lowest]

ATL, it's b/c I had asthma when I was in middle school, and abused the hell out of my albuterol inhaler. So I'm highly tolerant still to any "buterol" including clenbuterol. I have to take upwards of 240mcg/day to feel anything, and at that point, the sides far outweigh any possible benefits, especially when phentermine does a much better job at a much lower dose.

 

[silverbackn]

What do you mean, "immune to clen?" It didn't have any effect on you? That's weird, I've never heard of that. Was it legit?

As for the original post, I like GH, Test. Prop, EQ and Primo when I start cutting. used primo in a cutting cycle for the first time this year, and I was amazed. Seemed to be getting leaner while maintaining weight. It is great in a calorie-restricted diet, as is Test. Prop. I'll switch off the primo for Winny getting closer to a show, then stop all oils two weeks out.

Also use cynomel, with clen cycled with eca, switching every two weeks.

I have never used primo or GH cause I'm a poor bastard. I have never used clen or cytomel either. I can afford the clen and cytomel though, did you feel like shit when you ran them? I know clen can be uncomfortable. Do they help you get noticeabley tighter with all other things being equal? I only dieted for 6 weeks for my show and I was still eating a lot of calories. I have a pretty fast metabolism. I'm glad I'm finally getting some input from some serious guys. I thought a lot of people on here competed, I guess I was wrong.

 

[ATLmuscles]

I have never used primo or GH cause I'm a poor bastard. I have never used clen or cytomel either. I can afford the clen and cytomel though, did you feel like shit when you ran them? I know clen can be uncomfortable. Do they help you get noticeabley tighter with all other things being equal? I only dieted for 6 weeks for my show and I was still eating a lot of calories. I have a pretty fast metabolism. I'm glad I'm finally getting some input from some serious guys. I thought a lot of people on here competed, I guess I was wrong.

I wouldn't say the clen or cytomel make me tighter; they work to accelerate your metabolism to aid in burning fat. I find WInny really hardens me up and brings out the vascularity. It also causes me to get alot more cramps than usual, esp. ab cramps-ouch. GOod luck.