Question about what I should do before going on HRT

[the.gladiator1987]

Hi guys, I am currently in a pickle. I got my total testosterone tested and it came back 299. I am 23 years old and I have cycled prohormones and AAS since I was 16. Most of the time I did PCT and most of the time i waited time and a half before going on something again, but I think the long term use and starting young really fucked me up. I have all the symptoms of low test - fatigue, anxiety, bad sleep, no sex drive, no motivation in gym, cant gain weight or get stronger.

I started taking clomid 50mg daily along with HCgenerate, POST CYCLE and UNLEASHED from Protein factory. These are all post cycle supps but I wanted to see if I could raise my test naturally before I inject for life. The problem is that HRT would be way cheaper than all these supplements all the time. If I have to take something to have normal test levels, Id rather just take the real thing where I can control exactly how much I have. I would like to be in the 500-800range.

My doctor basically told me that i fell in the normal range but I know this is BS, im 23 so I shouldnt be under 300.

I have a couple questions:

1) How long after taking my post cycle supps should I go get another blood test? And what more should I include on the next test - LH, FSH, free test, estrogen, etc?

2) What is the best way to get my doc to refer me to an endo? I have full health benefits so cost is irrelevant, I feel like an endo would be better at fixing me up rather than my regular doc.

3) Is HCG and aromasin NECESSARY with HRT? Every time i cycle i never take an anti estro like aromasin because I dont bloat or have any sides of high estrogen, but I will take it if it helps since this is a life long commitment.

4) When blasting and cruising on HTR, when you go off your blast and back to your cruise dose, is it best to taper down? Or just go straight to your regular HRT dose?


Thanks for all the help in advance guys

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Here were my blood test results:

Total test: 299
Cholesterol: 121
HDL: 43
LDL: 66
Triglycerides: 61
TSH: 1.52
ALT: 23
Creatinine: .96
Glucose: 92
Hematocrit: 44.1%

 

[Zyglamail]

My doctor basically told me that i fell in the normal range but I know this is BS, im 23 so I shouldnt be under 300.

I have a couple questions:

1) How long after taking my post cycle supps should I go get another blood test? And what more should I include on the next test - LH, FSH, free test, estrogen, etc?

I dont have first hand experience monitoring results from supps, but I would say a few weeks should be ample time. If you just concerned about test then just have that checked. If the doc will do a full panel and its covered by insurance, get the whole meal deal.

2) What is the best way to get my doc to refer me to an endo? I have full health benefits so cost is irrelevant, I feel like an endo would be better at fixing me up rather than my regular doc.

This will vary from doc to doc, some simply wont ever think its needed. I would play on the metal affects of low test. If all else fails find a new doc.

3) Is HCG and aromasin NECESSARY with HRT? Every time i cycle i never take an anti estro like aromasin because I dont bloat or have any sides of high estrogen, but I will take it if it helps since this is a life long commitment.

HCG is nice because once your natty T stops your balls shrink, hvg prevents that. Aromasin or other anti-e is required based on your E level from labs.

4) When blasting and cruising on HTR, when you go off your blast and back to your cruise dose, is it best to taper down? Or just go straight to your regular HRT dose?

The ester will cause a natural taper really so you shouldnt have a problem dropping to regular trt dose. If you find you have mental sides due to the drastic change then tapering should help with the hormonal transition.

 

[BobTheBob]

HCG is nice because once your natty T stops your balls shrink, hvg prevents that. Aromasin or other anti-e is required based on your E level from labs.

You're young too, HCG preserves fertility so if you are thinking/planning on having kids you'll want this.

 

[bige]

Anti-E is not NECESSARY. I would expect/hope they run another lab to check your E2 before starting your therapy.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Awesome replies guys, thank you, I have a dr apt today tfor a follow up on the first blood test so hopefully he understands my situation and gets more detailed blood test or sends me to an endo.

 

[Headholio]

So did the test boosters work?

i hear what you are saying about taking them full time, but you could take them to get your system producing and then hopefully you could drop them and your body would stay in the normal range. I would try that before I commited to HRT.

You need to be clean for possibly a long time to get yourself back to normal.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

I mean ive been off for a good year now, and tonight is my last night of the UNleashed, Post Cycle, HCGenerate, and clomid stack. I did go to to the doc today and he is one of those docs that think 299 is a normal level, and that my depression/fatigue/loss of sex drive/cant gain muscle or weight is due to something else.

He did order me a blood test for total test, free test, LH, and prolactin. He said he wouldnt test for estrogen because my symptoms i describe couldnt come from an abnormal amount of estrogen lmao.

I am gonna wait 4 weeks to get the blood test because i want all this post cycle stuff to get out of my system. Heahholio, i agree man i hope this stuff makes me produce naturally but i feel like i wont be satisfied unless my test is in the 500-600 range.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

oh and for ur question, I would say they are working ok. I can tell i have more of a sex drive, but i still am depressed a little which is not normal for me at all. I also have no energy still even though I get my sleep, and in the gym i cant get stronger. My diet is pretty good, probably just eating enough to maintain, but its the fatigue/loss of libido/depression and the feeling of not being a "man". i feel like a lil bitch lol thats the clomid probably though.

 

[ceo]

to get a referral to an endo, just ask your PCP. He says he won't test for estrogen? Tell him you want the test and you don't care what he thinks, you want to see it. If he still won't do it, fire him and get another doctor.