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Putting to bed the myth of AR downregulation Part1
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There's also some obvious anecdotal evidence for the fact that receptor down-
regulation is a myth: A professional bodybuilder stops juicing for a few months, loses
an assload of muscle, then hops back on and gains it all back. How could he do that?
He doesn't really have those "fresh receptors" that everbody used to talk about.
Of course he's been off for awhile, but many of the pros are quite capable of reducing
themselves to nearly the size of a normal man, and then building themselves back up
into the top ranks in the space of a year. The guy
who will build muscle the fastest is almost always the guy who lost the most muscle in
the first place, not the guy with the freshest receptors.
regulation is a myth: A professional bodybuilder stops juicing for a few months, loses
an assload of muscle, then hops back on and gains it all back. How could he do that?
He doesn't really have those "fresh receptors" that everbody used to talk about.
Of course he's been off for awhile, but many of the pros are quite capable of reducing
themselves to nearly the size of a normal man, and then building themselves back up
into the top ranks in the space of a year. The guy
who will build muscle the fastest is almost always the guy who lost the most muscle in
the first place, not the guy with the freshest receptors.
for the full article go to: http://mend.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/13/11/1896
Mol Endocrinol 1999 Nov;13(11):1896-911
Multiple androgen response elements and a Myc consensus site in the androgen receptor (AR) coding region are involved in androgen-mediated up-regulation of AR messenger RNA.
Grad JM, Dai JL, Wu S, Burnstein KL.
Department of Molecular and Cellular Pharmacology, University of Miami School of Medicine, Florida 33101, USA.
The androgen receptor (AR) gene is transcriptionally regulated by AR (autoregulation); however, the androgen response elements (AREs) required for this process have not been found in the AR promoter or in the 5'-flanking region. We previously showed that the AR cDNA contains AREs involved in AR mRNA autoregulation and that auto(up)regulation is reproduced in PC3 cells (a human prostate cancer cell line) expressing the human AR cDNA driven by a heterologous promoter. A 350-bp fragment of the AR cDNA contains the requisite AREs (ARE-1 and ARE-2) and, when linked upstream of a reporter gene, confers androgen inducibility in a cell-specific manner. Here we report that, although an AR cDNA harboring silent mutations of ARE-1 and ARE-2 produces a transcriptionally active AR, AR mRNA encoded by this mutant cDNA is not up-regulated in androgen-treated PC3 cells. Thus, ARE-1 and ARE-2 are essential for androgen-mediated up-regulation of AR mRNA in this model. Since ARE-1 and ARE-2 are located on separate exons (exons D and E) in the AR gene, we evaluated these AREs in their native context, a 6.5-kb AR genomic fragment. Androgen regulated the 6.5-kb AR genomic fragment and the 350-bp region of the AR cDNA at comparable levels, suggesting that sequences in exons D and E are likely to be involved in androgen-mediated up-regulation of the native AR gene. Furthermore, androgen regulated both responsive regions in U2OS cells, a human osteoblastic cell line that exhibits androgen-mediated up-regulation of native AR mRNA. DNAse I footprinting of the 350-bp region with recombinant AR (DNA- and ligand-binding domains) suggested the presence of additional AREs. Gel shift analyses and mutational studies showed that maximal androgen regulation and AR binding were dependent on the integrity of four AREs (ARE-1, ARE-1A, IVSARE, and ARE-2). While the presence of multiple, nonconsensus AREs is common among other androgen-regulated enhancers, the androgen-responsive region of the AR gene is unique because it contains exonic AREs. DNA binding studies with nuclear extracts were performed to determine whether non-AR transcription factors contribute to androgen regulation of the 350-bp region. These studies, in conjunction with mutational analysis and reporter gene assays with dominant negative Myc and Max expression vectors, showed that Myc and Max interaction with a Myc consensus site is required for androgen regulation of the 350-bp fragment. These results represent a novel interaction between AR and the Myc family of proteins and support a model of androgenic control of AR mRNA via AR and Myc family interaction with a unique internal androgen-responsive region harboring multiple exonic regulatory sequences.
Mol Endocrinol 1999 Nov;13(11):1896-911
Multiple androgen response elements and a Myc consensus site in the androgen receptor (AR) coding region are involved in androgen-mediated up-regulation of AR messenger RNA.
Grad JM, Dai JL, Wu S, Burnstein KL.
Department of Molecular and Cellular Pharmacology, University of Miami School of Medicine, Florida 33101, USA.
The androgen receptor (AR) gene is transcriptionally regulated by AR (autoregulation); however, the androgen response elements (AREs) required for this process have not been found in the AR promoter or in the 5'-flanking region. We previously showed that the AR cDNA contains AREs involved in AR mRNA autoregulation and that auto(up)regulation is reproduced in PC3 cells (a human prostate cancer cell line) expressing the human AR cDNA driven by a heterologous promoter. A 350-bp fragment of the AR cDNA contains the requisite AREs (ARE-1 and ARE-2) and, when linked upstream of a reporter gene, confers androgen inducibility in a cell-specific manner. Here we report that, although an AR cDNA harboring silent mutations of ARE-1 and ARE-2 produces a transcriptionally active AR, AR mRNA encoded by this mutant cDNA is not up-regulated in androgen-treated PC3 cells. Thus, ARE-1 and ARE-2 are essential for androgen-mediated up-regulation of AR mRNA in this model. Since ARE-1 and ARE-2 are located on separate exons (exons D and E) in the AR gene, we evaluated these AREs in their native context, a 6.5-kb AR genomic fragment. Androgen regulated the 6.5-kb AR genomic fragment and the 350-bp region of the AR cDNA at comparable levels, suggesting that sequences in exons D and E are likely to be involved in androgen-mediated up-regulation of the native AR gene. Furthermore, androgen regulated both responsive regions in U2OS cells, a human osteoblastic cell line that exhibits androgen-mediated up-regulation of native AR mRNA. DNAse I footprinting of the 350-bp region with recombinant AR (DNA- and ligand-binding domains) suggested the presence of additional AREs. Gel shift analyses and mutational studies showed that maximal androgen regulation and AR binding were dependent on the integrity of four AREs (ARE-1, ARE-1A, IVSARE, and ARE-2). While the presence of multiple, nonconsensus AREs is common among other androgen-regulated enhancers, the androgen-responsive region of the AR gene is unique because it contains exonic AREs. DNA binding studies with nuclear extracts were performed to determine whether non-AR transcription factors contribute to androgen regulation of the 350-bp region. These studies, in conjunction with mutational analysis and reporter gene assays with dominant negative Myc and Max expression vectors, showed that Myc and Max interaction with a Myc consensus site is required for androgen regulation of the 350-bp fragment. These results represent a novel interaction between AR and the Myc family of proteins and support a model of androgenic control of AR mRNA via AR and Myc family interaction with a unique internal androgen-responsive region harboring multiple exonic regulatory sequences.
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here's a study that somewhat contradicts the last one:
Mol Cell Endocrinol 1991 Apr;76(1-3):79-88 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut
Androgen increases androgen receptor protein while decreasing receptor mRNA in LNCaP cells.
Krongrad A, Wilson CM, Wilson JD, Allman DR, McPhaul MJ.
Department of Internal Medicine, University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas 75235-8857.
We have examined the effect of androgen treatment on androgen receptor mRNA and protein expression in the LNCaP human prostate carcinoma cell line. Incubation with androgen caused a decrease in cellular androgen receptor mRNA content that was concentration and time dependent. Maximal suppression to approximately 35% of control level was observed after 49 h of exposure to androgen. By contrast, incubation of LNCaP cells with androgen resulted in a 2-fold increase in the cellular content of androgen receptor protein at 24 h. At 49 h androgen receptor protein increased 30% as assayed by immunoblots and 79% as assayed by ligand binding. These results suggest that ligand-induced changes in androgen receptor stability and/or the translational efficiency of androgen receptor mRNA account for the phenomenon of androgen receptor upregulation observed in cultured LNCaP cells. Furthermore, the suppression of androgen mRNA and protein that is caused by prolonged incubation with androgen is incomplete and is reversible upon removal of ligand.
Mol Cell Endocrinol 1991 Apr;76(1-3):79-88 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut
Androgen increases androgen receptor protein while decreasing receptor mRNA in LNCaP cells.
Krongrad A, Wilson CM, Wilson JD, Allman DR, McPhaul MJ.
Department of Internal Medicine, University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas 75235-8857.
We have examined the effect of androgen treatment on androgen receptor mRNA and protein expression in the LNCaP human prostate carcinoma cell line. Incubation with androgen caused a decrease in cellular androgen receptor mRNA content that was concentration and time dependent. Maximal suppression to approximately 35% of control level was observed after 49 h of exposure to androgen. By contrast, incubation of LNCaP cells with androgen resulted in a 2-fold increase in the cellular content of androgen receptor protein at 24 h. At 49 h androgen receptor protein increased 30% as assayed by immunoblots and 79% as assayed by ligand binding. These results suggest that ligand-induced changes in androgen receptor stability and/or the translational efficiency of androgen receptor mRNA account for the phenomenon of androgen receptor upregulation observed in cultured LNCaP cells. Furthermore, the suppression of androgen mRNA and protein that is caused by prolonged incubation with androgen is incomplete and is reversible upon removal of ligand.
Mol Endocrinol 1996 Dec;10(12):1582-94
Two androgen response elements in the androgen receptor coding region are required for cell-specific up-regulation of receptor messenger RNA.
Dai JL, Burnstein KL.
Department of Molecular and Cellular Pharmacology, University of Miami School of Medicine, Florida 33101, USA.
In most cells and tissues containing androgen receptors (ARs), androgen regulates the levels of AR messenger RNA (mRNA). As the AR concentration is correlated with androgen responsiveness, this autoregulation of AR mRNA may affect cellular sensitivity to androgens. Androgens decrease levels of AR mRNA in many cell lines and tissues; however, in some tissues and possibly also at certain developmental stages, AR mRNA is up-regulated by androgens. Sequences within the 5'-flanking region and AR promoter do not appear to be sufficient for androgen regulation of AR mRNA. We have previously shown that both down- and up-regulation of AR mRNA by androgen can be reproduced in cell lines expressing a transfected human AR complementary DNA (cDNA). Sequences within the AR cDNA confer this autoregulation in transfected cells, suggesting that sequences within the transcribed region of the AR gene are sufficient for autoregulation. In this study we have determined the mechanism of androgenic up-regulation of AR mRNA encoded by the human AR cDNA in the prostate cancer cell line, PC3, and have identified the cis-acting sequences of the AR cDNA that are required. The observations that actinomycin D blocked androgenic up-regulation of AR mRNA but cycloheximide had no effect are consistent with a model in which AR is directly involved in transcriptional up-regulation of AR cDNA expression. Nuclear run-on assays showed that androgen treatment resulted in increased transcription of the AR cDNA. Furthermore, a 350-bp AR cDNA fragment inserted 5' of a thymidine kinase promoter-chloramphenicol acetyltransferase gene conferred androgen induction of chloramphenicol acetyltransferase activity in PC3 cells. This 350-bp fragment, which is located in the AR coding region, contains two putative androgen response elements (AREs) separated by 182 bp. The 5'-most ARE (ARE-1, 5'-TGTCCT-3') resembles a half-site of the palindromic consensus hormone response element, recognized by several steroid receptors, including AR, and the 3'-sequence (ARE-2, 5'-AGTACTCC-3') is identical to a portion of an androgen-responsive region found in the rat probasin gene promoter. Analysis of either ARE-1 or ARE-2 mutants revealed that these elements function synergistically. AR protein binds to the 350-bp fragment, as demonstrated by electrophoretic mobility shift assays using a glutathione-S-transferase-AR fusion protein containing the DNA- and steroid-binding domains of AR. These results indicate that the AR coding region contains an androgen-responsive region that is involved in cell line-specific up-regulation of AR mRNA.
Two androgen response elements in the androgen receptor coding region are required for cell-specific up-regulation of receptor messenger RNA.
Dai JL, Burnstein KL.
Department of Molecular and Cellular Pharmacology, University of Miami School of Medicine, Florida 33101, USA.
In most cells and tissues containing androgen receptors (ARs), androgen regulates the levels of AR messenger RNA (mRNA). As the AR concentration is correlated with androgen responsiveness, this autoregulation of AR mRNA may affect cellular sensitivity to androgens. Androgens decrease levels of AR mRNA in many cell lines and tissues; however, in some tissues and possibly also at certain developmental stages, AR mRNA is up-regulated by androgens. Sequences within the 5'-flanking region and AR promoter do not appear to be sufficient for androgen regulation of AR mRNA. We have previously shown that both down- and up-regulation of AR mRNA by androgen can be reproduced in cell lines expressing a transfected human AR complementary DNA (cDNA). Sequences within the AR cDNA confer this autoregulation in transfected cells, suggesting that sequences within the transcribed region of the AR gene are sufficient for autoregulation. In this study we have determined the mechanism of androgenic up-regulation of AR mRNA encoded by the human AR cDNA in the prostate cancer cell line, PC3, and have identified the cis-acting sequences of the AR cDNA that are required. The observations that actinomycin D blocked androgenic up-regulation of AR mRNA but cycloheximide had no effect are consistent with a model in which AR is directly involved in transcriptional up-regulation of AR cDNA expression. Nuclear run-on assays showed that androgen treatment resulted in increased transcription of the AR cDNA. Furthermore, a 350-bp AR cDNA fragment inserted 5' of a thymidine kinase promoter-chloramphenicol acetyltransferase gene conferred androgen induction of chloramphenicol acetyltransferase activity in PC3 cells. This 350-bp fragment, which is located in the AR coding region, contains two putative androgen response elements (AREs) separated by 182 bp. The 5'-most ARE (ARE-1, 5'-TGTCCT-3') resembles a half-site of the palindromic consensus hormone response element, recognized by several steroid receptors, including AR, and the 3'-sequence (ARE-2, 5'-AGTACTCC-3') is identical to a portion of an androgen-responsive region found in the rat probasin gene promoter. Analysis of either ARE-1 or ARE-2 mutants revealed that these elements function synergistically. AR protein binds to the 350-bp fragment, as demonstrated by electrophoretic mobility shift assays using a glutathione-S-transferase-AR fusion protein containing the DNA- and steroid-binding domains of AR. These results indicate that the AR coding region contains an androgen-responsive region that is involved in cell line-specific up-regulation of AR mRNA.
Dr.Evil said:
shaved ape is correct...there is no set number of mRNA molecules in a given cell. only when protein synthesis is needed (ligand binding to receptor) will DNA replication occur and an mRNA transcribed. the enhancer and promoter regions are on the DNA being transcribed. mRNA in eukaryotes has a 5' cap region, a pol-A tail, and introns and exons that are spliced to make the final molecule that the ribosomes translate to proteins.
high concentrations of a ligand (ie AS) causes less receptor production, and more turnover. the body tries to maintain homeostasis. so when you pump iron, you are basically putting a demand on the muscles to produce more mass. one way it does this is by increasing protein (receptor) synthesis and the excess AS present allows it to continue to grow as long as the demand and supply are there. in reality it is really not this simple, but this is a good overview of how things work, but i am sure that most of you know this because if i am putting things in my body, then i would research it fully! when i was getting my biochem degree at LSU, i worked in a prof's lab who was doing research on this very subject. interesting stuff!
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