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This cycle is going to be my first. Trained for 4 year now¨.. 4 times every week VERY serious.

1-2 750mg Test E EW
2-10 500mg Test E EW
1-12 50mg Proviron ED
12-14 40mg Nolvadex ED
14-16 20mg Nolvadex ED
With my last shoot of test e I will also take 1500 iu HCG E5D x 3. To bring my balls up back in size and restore my FSH - LH better. My personal opinion is this is a rock solid cycle for a newbie in this game. And think about to gain 10-12 kg. My quistion is :

What is prefered injection 2 times EW (Monday - Thurday) or just 1 shoot monday with 500 mg.
The frontloading period i am injecting 500 mg monday and 250mg thurday. My own belife is that I get more stabel blood level with 2 injections ew insted of 1.
And what is the real half life of Test Enanthate 10.5 days - 7 days or 5 days. So many diffrent opinions some must have som facts.

Hope to get good respond
 
It is not that big a deal, I prefer once a week,

Personal preference. Test e is nice because you can inject once a week.
 
ricorico said:
2 injects a week is prefered, but u could also get away with just one
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Agree. Two seems to smooth out the reaction and the volume of the liquid is less to absorb (pain).

I'm looking at the stimulation chart in the Reference Book 2006 and it shows highest reaction at days 1-2-3 ... then a slide down to day 11 ... plateau all the way to day 25. Twice a week would eliminate roller coaster.
 
Is it necessary to do 250mg more in the first two weeks? I'm just askin'.

Just run:

Test E: 500mg wks 1-12
Priviron: 50mg EDks 1-12
Keep Nolva and Letro on hand (counter gyno)
run PCT wks 14-17:
(hCG 1500iu days 1 & 5 (wk 14), Nolva 40mg ED wk 14, 20mg ED wks 15-17)

If I missed anything fellaz....

Half life I believe is 10.5 days for Test E.
 
I think the half life is 5 days. I think Test E is the king of all tests.
Just my humble opinion.
Good luck with the cycle.
 
What I was advised - 2 shots a week to keep blood levels even - 1 a week if you can't take the inject pain. :rainbow:
 
My pland is to frontload to get blood levels stabil after only only week so the concentration of testosterone i up really quick so I am gaining from week 2 and not week 4 because it normaly take 4 week to kick in but when you fronload it will kick in faster. I am going to inject monday - thurday.
 
Who am I said:
My pland is to frontload to get blood levels stabil after only only week so the concentration of testosterone i up really quick so I am gaining from week 2 and not week 4 because it normaly take 4 week to kick in but when you fronload it will kick in faster. I am going to inject monday - thurday.
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Frontloading doesn't affect the release rate or get your blood levels stable faster. What is 2 weeks in the grand scheme of things? If you're that worried about it run some low dose d-bol the first few weeks.
 
When does the test- e kick in for people? Im about to start week 5 of 500mg ew and 30mg dbol ed, and so far ive only really noticed the dbol working.
 
Craig32 said:
When does the test- e kick in for people? Im about to start week 5 of 500mg ew and 30mg dbol ed, and so far ive only really noticed the dbol working.
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Should already be kicking in. I hear two weeks a lot in here. D-bol should notice pretty good as well. Love the Dbol except for the bloat!
 
You might gain 10-12 kg, but I'm not sure you'd keep it all (regardless of PCT I think a gain like that is going to carry some water/blood volume). Really, a solid 5-8 kg gain of real muscle is an awesome gain.

I think it's a good idea to go with one compound for a 1st run, but I bet you'd be quite pleased with some d-bol added to your plan.


Post your stats.
 
thelion2005 said:
Amen.
I can literally feel dbol at work in the first week. One of the sides is my ears feel hot. 20 mg pd.
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I miss that! I haven't ran any d-bol in a while, i am definitely a fan of the d-bol.
 
Please tell my why its not a good ide to run 750 mg the first 2 weeks.. what is the this with 750 vs 500mg the first 2 weeks ?
 
Who am I said:
Please tell my why its not a good ide to run 750 mg the first 2 weeks.. what is the this with 750 vs 500mg the first 2 weeks ?
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Because shooting more in the beginning doesn't change the long-half life of the drug. If your that concerned about getting your levels up very fast use an oral or prop.
 
U dont understand me. When i calculate i will have Will get faster the mg only after one week insted of 3-4 weeks.
 
If you value your hair, don't run proviron until you know whether you'll actually need it or not.

I wouldn't run pct the week after my last inject because there will still be plenty of exogenous androgens in my body.
 
Who am I said:
This cycle is going to be my first. Trained for 4 year now¨.. 4 times every week VERY serious.

1-2 750mg Test E EW
2-10 500mg Test E EW
1-12 50mg Proviron ED
12-14 40mg Nolvadex ED
14-16 20mg Nolvadex ED
With my last shoot of test e I will also take 1500 iu HCG E5D x 3. To bring my balls up back in size and restore my FSH - LH better. My personal opinion is this is a rock solid cycle for a newbie in this game. And think about to gain 10-12 kg. My quistion is :

What is prefered injection 2 times EW (Monday - Thurday) or just 1 shoot monday with 500 mg.
The frontloading period i am injecting 500 mg monday and 250mg thurday. My own belife is that I get more stabel blood level with 2 injections ew insted of 1.
And what is the real half life of Test Enanthate 10.5 days - 7 days or 5 days. So many diffrent opinions some must have som facts.

Hope to get good respond
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i believe this is incorrect. you should not shoot hcg the same day as your last injection of test. you'll need to wait at least a week for the half life of test e to be low enough for hcg dosing.
 
So 1 week after my last shoot test ?

I dont want to inject this much HCG 2 think 2-3 shoots a week is enough. How about.

1-2 750mg test e EW
2-12 500mg test e EW
1-14 50mg proviron ED
6 1500 iu HCG
7 1500iu HCG
8 1500iu HCG
PCT
14-16 40mg Nolvadex ED
16-18 20mg Nolvadex ED

Why not hcg during pct to recover better ?
Why not frontload with the same drug ?
The desired amout testosterone will get faster ind the blood, so the blood level are stabel after only 2 weeks insted of 4 weeks. ?
 
If you are dying to frontload the test, rock on. Not necessary, and I highly doub't you'd notice any difference. I see you extended the test to 12 weeks - good move as far as I'm concerned.

You sure you want to chow down on that much proviron the whole time? I bet you'd love the feeling from the proviron alone (you'll be a walking happy erection), but it can be pretty hard on the hair. On my first cycle (500mg/w test) I was advised to take 25mg/d of proviron for 2 weeks at a time, followed by 10 days of 10mg of nolva. Obviously I was looking for estrogen control. If you're also looking to proviron to bind up SHBG, but think you might want a lower dose or proviron (or like the idea of alternating proviron out of your cycle every few weeks, or not using it at all) look into nettle root.

I've never used hcg during a cycle, but I plan to on the next one. I also believe it is a good pct drug. I've used it with nolva a couple week out from a cycle. I believe I did 1500 iu HCG E5D x 4.


One last thought about the frontload. If you're looking to see those desired effects sooner, two words: "Dee" "Bawl."
 
Oh, and I'd have an aromatase inhibitor at a fairly conservative dose through the whole thing (especially if dbol is used). I also would have at least a few weeks worth of back-up nolva (enough for 10mg/d), just in case and probably very unlikely you'd need it.
 
Why is 50mg proviron too much ? In the precription label take 3 tablet a day. Thats 75 mg ed. There NO side effects or none hair loose in the label. It because you thin proviron is like masterone ? I will get more mg in the 2 first weeks when i frontload. So I will reach the desired peak efter 1 week and keep it stabel for the rest og the cycle tjek this out. http://www.roidcalc.com/ There you can see 4 yourself. Its alway great to frontload nomatter if its test or EQ - primo etc.
 
kbrkbr said:
If you value your hair, don't run proviron until you know whether you'll actually need it or not.
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All depends bro, I love proviron and I run it at 50mg/dayy plus Stanz at 60mg/day and no hair loss at all. Its all about pple prone to MPB. If you are not prone to MPB, shouldn't be a prob.
 
How is the best way a take hcg.. Many diffrent opinions on that ? What week to begin HCG i have 3 x 1500iu from organon.
 
Who am I said:
How is the best way a take hcg.. Many diffrent opinions on that ? What week to begin HCG i have 3 x 1500iu from organon.
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the best way is the way that works for you. too many different opinions on this issue, believe me i've researched them all and asked. unfortunatley, it's trial and error.

i'll tell you i am currently in week 5 of a 10 week cycle of test. i am running 250iu's hcg every 72 hours. my boyz are plump and still kicking. my sex drive has been punishing my wife :) i'm running AIFM @ 1 pump per day as well. no bloat, no itchy nips nothing but about 15 lbs of weight gain. for pct I'm planning on running HCG 7-10 days after my last shot @ 500iu's ed for 10days straight. the low dose of HCG is due to the fact the Ulter and Macro have repeated to the end of time that AIFM magnifies the HCG.

so in short, choose 1 way, stick with. if it works great. if not, then next time try another of the 1001 ways HCG can be administered.

good luck.
 
I will take 1 shoot with 1500 iu 7 days after last shoot test e. Then 2 x E5D after that shoot. ? Does this sound good ?
 
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