Proviron

[fitwitlem]

Started taking proviron, wanted to know if you guys think that 25mg ed is a waste or should it be 50 ed? For optimal results!

Currently on: Sust 500/wk, Eq 600/wk and starting Tren A 50/ed or 75/eod with .5 a-dex ed for gyno sucception.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

atleast 50 a day anything less IMO is a waste. Some guys say it works better for them to take 75 or even a hundred

 

[fitwitlem]

atleast 50 a day anything less IMO is a waste. Some guys say it works better for them to take 75 or even a hundred

Whats better? The bloat, the libido, the gyno help? Elaborate if u can.

 

[advanced-stealth]

50mg

 

[fitwitlem]

Split up, or all at once in the day?

 

[txbondsman]

50mg min, most will say 75mg ed....

 

[iHulk]

speaking as a complete Proviron abuser ...50mg ed for the duration of your cycle is sufficient. I've gone upwards of 100mg ed along with AI regimen and it can hinder gains. You'll be dry as a mofo & horny than you can imagine with 50mg. Its not necessarily better to take super high doses. Run it even 50mg ed when bulking.

100mg for cutting.

 

[TheGooch]

and what exactly are the benefits of Proviron? Is it only run durng a cycle? It's obviously not a stand alone...

I know I coulda googled, but it's early and I'm lazy, and +1!

 

[iHulk]

not advisable to take it for PCT. Take it only during aromatizing cycles. Test base cycles. Leave it alone when on high progesterone or prolactin inducing cycles...

 

[fitwitlem]

not advisable to take it for PCT. Take it only during aromatizing cycles. Test base cycles. Leave it alone when on high progesterone or prolactin inducing cycles...

Well like i said in original post, im gettn ready to add Tren a next week, u say 2 leave it while on high progestererone or prolactin? Either my dose that i listed isnt consuderd high by u to stop use or leave it alone all together when i start tren. i think i read that they compete with each other(nandrolone compounds) n proviron they both bind to aromatase enzyme, therfore inhibiting capabilities of use?

Its better to split it up like most orals or at 1 time?

 

[iHulk]

a moderately dosed Tren cycle of 75mg ed is going to be shrink wrapping you anyway... so drop the prov and use that during your eq/sus run. The prov along with the AI (adex) should keep the bloat way down and block virtually all estro sides and make PCT a snap

 

[fitwitlem]

a moderately dosed Tren cycle of 75mg ed is going to be shrink wrapping you anyway... so drop the prov and use that during your eq/sus run. The prov along with the AI (adex) should keep the bloat way down and block virtually all estro sides and make PCT a snap

yea, im 3 weeks in sust n eq and takn proviron. im adding tren next week to sust n eq and then drop pro. tren is only gonna b like 6 wks so i could pik bak up after tren run with sust n eq? rite?

also after or toward end of eq, im going with primo, winny and var, and proviron is synergistic with winny n primo

 

[trowsersnake98]

not advisable to take it for PCT. Take it only during aromatizing cycles. Test base cycles. Leave it alone when on high progesterone or prolactin inducing cycles...

ok, wait a minute. im sorry to hijack, but im about to start my proviron and this concerned me. im taking 400eq/400test-e/100mg NPP eod should i not use proviron with the npp?

the entire reason in starting it is because ive heard throwing it in and the end of a cycle solidifies gains and makes pct a cinch?

 

[iHulk]

yea, im 3 weeks in sust n eq and takn proviron. im adding tren next week to sust n eq and then drop pro. tren is only gonna b like 6 wks so i could pik bak up after tren run with sust n eq? rite?

also after or toward end of eq, im going with primo, winny and var, and proviron is synergistic with winny n primo

exactly... run the pro with your sus and eq and drop it while you run tren... if you are running tren ace then its better because its outta of your system quicker and you can use the prov again almost immediately when you start the winny/primo combo... stanz plus proviron gives unreal hardness to the mucsle...
sounds like a bad ass cycle bro. Good luck.

 

[iHulk]

okay thats where a caveat comes into play. Proviron is arguable one of the most misunderstood anabolics ... It is believed to act as an anti-aromatase in the body, actually preventing or slowing the conversion of androgens into estrogen, and acting to prevent a buildup of estrogen in the body. So it seems logical that you'd only want to take it when a pronounced increased of estrogen is being produced as a byproduct from androgenic aromitization. Proviron can supplement a well-needed androgen and bring about an increase in the hardness and density of the physique.

So if you are using mild dosed Test (which you are at 400mg per week) which still has a pronounced androgenic property plus the boost of Boldenone Undec, a derivative of testosterone at 400mg per week, you'll have a strong anabolic and moderately androgenic stack. Because EQ WON'T CONVERT TO ESTRO then you don't have to worry so much about estro conversion but you still have the Test in there so its still a good base for using the proviron.

okay, now you bring in NPP, another drug with highly anabolic potential. If you are using the NPP EOD then perhaps won't have to worry so much about building up prolactin sides, and since you have that test base, you can probably dabble with the proviron without a problem but why bother. You have 2 highly anabolic substances running already (EQ and NPP). And only one, albeit very mild dose of Test (400mg/week). If you upped the Test to say 750mg/wk or a G/wk then the proviron could be in there as well since you have a highly androgenic component for the proviron to synergize with.

For you, stanozolol would be much better choice to do what you are looking for. Harden and cut at the end of the cycle.

just my thoughts on it.

ok, wait a minute. im sorry to hijack, but im about to start my proviron and this concerned me. im taking 400eq/400test-e/100mg NPP eod should i not use proviron with the npp?

the entire reason in starting it is because ive heard throwing it in and the end of a cycle solidifies gains and makes pct a cinch?

 

[trowsersnake98]

okay thats where a caveat comes into play. Proviron is arguable one of the most misunderstood anabolics ... It is believed to act as an anti-aromatase in the body, actually preventing or slowing the conversion of androgens into estrogen, and acting to prevent a buildup of estrogen in the body. So it seems logical that you'd only want to take it when a pronounced increased of estrogen is being produced as a byproduct from androgenic aromitization. Proviron can supplement a well-needed androgen and bring about an increase in the hardness and density of the physique.

So if you are using mild dosed Test (which you are at 400mg per week) which still has a pronounced androgenic property plus the boost of Boldenone Undec, a derivative of testosterone at 400mg per week, you'll have a strong anabolic and moderately androgenic stack. Because EQ WON'T CONVERT TO ESTRO then you don't have to worry so much about estro conversion but you still have the Test in there so its still a good base for using the proviron.

okay, now you bring in NPP, another drug with highly anabolic potential. If you are using the NPP EOD then perhaps won't have to worry so much about building up prolactin sides, and since you have that test base, you can probably dabble with the proviron without a problem but why bother. You have 2 highly anabolic substances running already (EQ and NPP). And only one, albeit very mild dose of Test (400mg/week). If you upped the Test to say 750mg/wk or a G/wk then the proviron could be in there as well since you have a highly androgenic component for the proviron to synergize with.

For you, stanozolol would be much better choice to do what you are looking for. Harden and cut at the end of the cycle.

just my thoughts on it.

wow, thank for all the info ihulk. i really appreciate it.

 

[INNOCENT]

50mg ed

 

[lartinos]

ya, but if your taking tren/deca without test and just looking for a libido boost I'd still use the proviron.

 

[solidspine]

Proviron


What are you taking it for?

It does nothing for me.

 

[njmuscleguy]

If you're taking Proviron with a test-only cycle, then it's a very synergistic combo because Proviron reduces aromatization and also increases free test since it binds strongly with SHBG.

If you're taking Proviron with a test & deca cycle, deca will bond more strongly to anabolic receptor sites, but Provirion is still 3-4 times more androgenic than test (being a DHT-derivative) and it still binds strongly with SHBG, thereby increasing free test.

If you're taking Proviron with test & tren, well, hardly anything is as androgenic as tren...so Proviron can't compete there. Nor does tren aromatize, so you don't need Provirion for that. Test, however, does aromatize...so Proviron can help there and still bind to SHBG to increase free test. The only concern in this case is if you have hairline or prostate issues. This is a heavily androgenic cycle, so it could cause you problems.

Oh yah, 50mg is a nice, effective dosage for Proviron.

 

[cadey]

so i got a question. is it wort taking proviron with a test and masteron course? as they are both dht deriatives.

 

[billdance]

It just gives me great hardons...no matter what......sweet!!!

 

[njmuscleguy]

so i got a question. is it wort taking proviron with a test and masteron course? as they are both dht deriatives.

Proviron is like oral masteron... practically identical... so taking both would seem unnecessary

 

[airsmith2k]

If you're taking Proviron with a test-only cycle, then it's a very synergistic combo because Proviron reduces aromatization and also increases free test since it binds strongly with SHBG.

If you're taking Proviron with a test & deca cycle, deca will bond more strongly to anabolic receptor sites, but Provirion is still 3-4 times more androgenic than test (being a DHT-derivative) and it still binds strongly with SHBG, thereby increasing free test.

If you're taking Proviron with test & tren, well, hardly anything is as androgenic as tren...so Proviron can't compete there. Nor does tren aromatize, so you don't need Provirion for that. Test, however, does aromatize...so Proviron can help there and still bind to SHBG to increase free test. The only concern in this case is if you have hairline or prostate issues. This is a heavily androgenic cycle, so it could cause you problems.

Oh yah, 50mg is a nice, effective dosage for Proviron.

hey where in jersey do u live?

 

[doogle]

use proviron 50mg at 5weeks at end of test cycle works great!