Proviron?

[Dellyo]

Proviron in this cycle ok?

Week 1-15 Proviron
week 1-12 Sust 500mgs
week 1-4 D-bol 30mgs ED
week 10-15 winny 50mgs ed
week 1-13 A-dex 1-4 1mg 5-13 .5 ed
Week 5-7 500iu Hcg M/w/f


Pct WEEK 15 3weeks after last sust
Hcg 500iu m/w/f 3wk
1-4 Aromasin 20mgs ed
1-6 20mg nolva
100mgs clomid wk 1 then 50mgs 2-6
1000iu vitamin E wk 1-3

 

[manny78]

You're already running an anti-E so I dont see the point. Liquidex is enough. Plus with test in your cycle, its not like your gonna lose your libido.

 

[25homes]

I think it would be a good addittion....should help harden you out especially with the winny...remember proviron is an aas so I would say it would be good for this cycle

 

[plifter48]

You will be overkilling the estrogen since you already have Adex. I wouldn't use it because too much estrogen suppression with make you lethargic (tired). You will not need the Clomid for PCT if you are using HCG. Go with one or the other. I prefer the HCG personally. Rest of your PCT is perfect though.

 

[25homes]

I would say lose the adex bro and run HCG mid cyle with Clomid PCT with nolva...I would never run HCG PCT!!

 

[plifter48]

I think he has seen the new research that yes, you do need HCG for PCT, because the rest of his PCT (except for the clomid) follows that research. I would only use the HCG mid cycle if there is a lot of testicular shrinkage, but he should be OK running only 500mg of Sus. per week.

 

[njmuscleguy]

You're already running an anti-E so I dont see the point. Liquidex is enough. Plus with test in your cycle, its not like your gonna lose your libido.

Well, Proviron is only a week anti-e, especially in comparison to those typically used... I agree that the Liquidex is enough in this case (even though I would choose AIFM or Aromasin over Liquidex personally)... otherwise, I also agree that for a cycle like this, there won't be any libido issues....I would definitely use Proviron for deca and tren cycles though, even if test was in the mix....

 

[melochai]

Doesn't the proviron help prevent the aromitization of the test, keep more of the test in your systme so your body can use it ?

 

[plifter48]

Yes, it does provide more free testosterone in your system and it is a weak anti-e. If you want to use it I would drop the Adex, I don't think you need both.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Doesn't the proviron help prevent the aromitization of the test, keep more of the test in your systme so your body can use it ?

Proviron itself doesn't aromatize, and it binds to the aromatase enzyme, preventing test from aromatizing.... however, I've seen differing opinions as to how well proviron binds to aromatase.... so personally, I wouldn't rely on Proviron solely as an anti-estrogen.... Proviron also binds strongly to SHBG, which frees up more testosterone in your system.

 

[plifter48]

Since you are only using 500mg of Sus. per week, the Proviron should be enough to cover any estrogen. Good idea to have the Adex on hand though, just in case.

 

[Dellyo]

I think he has seen the new research that yes, you do need HCG for PCT, because the rest of his PCT (except for the clomid) follows that research. I would only use the HCG mid cycle if there is a lot of testicular shrinkage, but he should be OK running only 500mg of Sus. per week.

Yup I will bump the boys back into commission if they need mid cycle

 

[Dellyo]

Since you are only using 500mg of Sus. per week, the Proviron should be enough to cover any estrogen. Good idea to have the Adex on hand though, just in case.

Great....well about the d-bol......Proviron..is it going to cover that? How about I run the A-dex 1mg with the D-bol and the proviron the rest of the way with a-dex on hand just in case///?

 

[njmuscleguy]

Great....well about the d-bol......Proviron..is it going to cover that? How about I run the A-dex 1mg with the D-bol and the proviron the rest of the way with a-dex on hand just in case///?

I'm curious.... why are you set on using proviron in this cycle as an anti-e? There is a ton of info on here on the most common anti-e's (a-dex, aromasin, AIFM, letro), and they are more effective in reducing estrogen than proviron.... proviron is desirable for it's libido-enhancing properties and it's slightly anabolic nature

 

[Dellyo]

Well really....I just wanted to try some/n new...

 

[UFC22]

For my upcoming cycle I will be using proviron and a low to mid dosage of AIFM. Run the proviron wks 1-12 no need for it after. Run your AIFM into your PCT and add clomid. So here:

1-12 - sustanon
1-12 - proviron
1-4 - Dianabol
10-14 - Winstrol
RUN your AIFM up until week 18 when PCT is finished.
IF you chose adex run it at 1mg during Dianabol 1-4 then drop down to .5mg untill week 12. from weeks 12-18 bring your adex down to .25mgs. After your last winstrol dose begin Clomid therapy. Hope this helped.

 

[Dellyo]

Thanks for that info bro....K