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biggerdave
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what are your reasons for thinking of doin this?
dave.
dave.
swampmoose
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i am not too sure on proviron, B/C i have never taken it, but!!!!!!!!!!, my dear friend swears by it. He says it cures depression and anxity and all kinds of shit like cancer and HIV, but i would ask a MOD about taking it POST cycle cause i have never had the need or urge to do so!!!!!
good luck
good luck
swampmoose
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better yet!, do search for your own answer, 4 the MODS r quite Busy!!!!
swampmoose
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sorry 4 the runnaround
SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY
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swampmoose said:
LOL
I'm currently in the 4th week of a cycle that includes Proviron at 50mgs/ED. It hasn't done anything as far as wood is concerned. I'd go with Viagra or Cialis. I gave the Viagra a whirl earlier this week... left the GF "sore" Brothers.
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biggerdave
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well yeah it would definatly help with the wood as for effecting htpa recovery im not too sure. why not just get some viagra or cialis to help you out till your test levels are better.Diz said:
dave.
biggerdave said:
hows it goin dave?well my thinking was prov is cheaper,works as anti-e,and helps with the wood.so if it doesn`t effect hpta it would be the way to go.I have run proviron with my clomid before but always ended it same time as clomid in fear that it would fuck up recovery time.
biggerdave
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i'll have a look around see what i can find on the subject bro.
dave.
dave.
biggerdave
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i just did a quick search and found one post that suggests that you can recover on proviron.
do a search for the post; bridging questions???
other than that just keep it bumped till some of the mods arrive.
dave.
do a search for the post; bridging questions???
other than that just keep it bumped till some of the mods arrive.
dave.
swampmoose
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SCOTTY 2 HOTTY....
i cant believe your body feels so down only after 4 weeks.
i guess everyone is different.
i would add a tad of hcg into your cycle to start your shit back to normal.
i cant believe your body feels so down only after 4 weeks.
i guess everyone is different.
i would add a tad of hcg into your cycle to start your shit back to normal.
SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY
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Swamp- I was thinking that EXACTLY. Won't I need to use Nolvadex concurrently with the HCG though? For how long after HCG treatment should I continue with the Nolva?
swampmoose
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O.K...realize this is coming from someone who doesn't use shit like that.
put the nolva away......
if you are doing 8 weeks, do the hcg in the middle. most will say dont fuck with it unless you are doing 10 weeks or more. you are shut down 4 a reason. give yourself a reason to start back up. maybe you didn't take long enough break. do it , then do clomid as specified at the end and u should be fine. i have never used nolva, even though that shit is always on hand.
put the nolva away......
if you are doing 8 weeks, do the hcg in the middle. most will say dont fuck with it unless you are doing 10 weeks or more. you are shut down 4 a reason. give yourself a reason to start back up. maybe you didn't take long enough break. do it , then do clomid as specified at the end and u should be fine. i have never used nolva, even though that shit is always on hand.
drveejay11
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You guys got this one wrong! Proviron does send a message to the brain via chemical/hormonal pathways that WILL IN FACT increase libido! I have tried this stuff in conjuction with test! Holy f'ing sh*t! I swear I needed it like 3-5 times/day! NOT just wanted it------NEEDED it! I was the horniest I ever was in my entire life! (I'm over 30). Proviron is sometimes used to treat libido problems!
drveejay11
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Here you go: (Proviron)
"Proviron is a synthetic, orally effective androgen which does not have any anabolic characteristics. Proviron is used in school medi-cine to case or cure disturbances caused by a deficiency of male sex hormones. Many athletes, for this reason, often use Proviron at the end of a steroid treatment in order to increase the reduced testoster-one production. This, however, is not a good idea since Proviron has no effect on the body's own testosterone production but-as men-tioned in the beginning-only reduces or completely eliminates the dysfunctions caused by the testosterone deficiency. These are, in par-ticular, impotence which is mostly caused by an androgen deficiency that can occur after the discontinuance of steroids, and infertility which manifests itself in a reduced sperm count and a reduced sperm quality. Proviron is therefore taken during a steroid administration or after discontinuing the use of the steroids, to eliminate a possible impotency or a reduced sexual interest. This, however, does not con-tribute to the maintenance of strength and muscle mass after the treatment. There are other better suited compounds for this (see HCG, Clomid, and Teslac). For this reason Proviron is unfortunately considered by many to be a useless and unnecessary compound.
You should be aware that Proviron is also an estrogen antagonist which prevents the aromatization of steroids. Unlike the antiestrogen Nolvadex which only blocks the estrogen receptors (see Nolvadex) Proviron already prevents the aromatizing of steroids. Therefore gynecomastia and increased water retention are successfully blocked. Since Proviron strongly suppresses the forming of estrogens no re-bound effect occurs after discontinuation of use of the compound as is the case with, for example, Nolvadex where an aromatization of the steroids is not prevented. One can say that Nolvadex cures the problem of aromatization at its root while Nolvadex simply cures the symptoms. For this reason male athletes should prefer Proviron to Nolvadex. With Proviron the athlete obtains more muscle hard-ness since the androgen level is increased and the estrogen concen-tration remains low. This, in particular, is noted positively during the preparation for a competition when used in combination with a diet. Female athletes who naturally have a higher estrogen level of-ten supplement their steroid intake with Proviron resulting in increased muscle hardness. In the past it was common for body-builders to take a daily dose of one 25 mg tablet over several weeks, sometimes even months, in order to appear hard all year round. This was especially important for athletes' appearances at guest performances, seminars and photo sessions. Today Clenbuterol is usually taken over the entire year since possible virilization symp-toms cannot occur which is not yet the case with Proviron. Since Proviron is very effective male athletes usually need only 50-mg/ day which means that the athlete usually takes one 25 mg tablet in the morning and another 25 mg tablet in the evening. In some cases one 25 mg tablet per day is sufficient. When combining Proviron with Nolvadex (50 mg Proviron/day and 20 mg Nolvadex/day) this will lead to an almost complete suppression of estrogen. Even better results are achieved with 50 mg Proviron/ day and 500 - 1000 mg Teslac/day. Since Teslac is a very expensive compound (see Teslac) most athletes do not consider this com-bination.
The side effects of Proviron in men are low at a dosage of 24 tab--lets/day so that Proviron, taken for example in combination with a steroid cycle, can be used comparatively without risk over several weeks. Since Proviron is well-tolerated by the liver, liver dysfunc-tions do not occur in the given dosages. For athletes who are used to acting under the motto "more is better" the intake of Proviron could have a paradoxical effect. The most common side effect of Proviron is a distinct sexual overstimulation and in some cases continuous penis erection. Since this condition can be painful and lead to possible damages, a lower dosage or discontinu-ing the compound are the only sensible solutions. "
"Proviron is a synthetic, orally effective androgen which does not have any anabolic characteristics. Proviron is used in school medi-cine to case or cure disturbances caused by a deficiency of male sex hormones. Many athletes, for this reason, often use Proviron at the end of a steroid treatment in order to increase the reduced testoster-one production. This, however, is not a good idea since Proviron has no effect on the body's own testosterone production but-as men-tioned in the beginning-only reduces or completely eliminates the dysfunctions caused by the testosterone deficiency. These are, in par-ticular, impotence which is mostly caused by an androgen deficiency that can occur after the discontinuance of steroids, and infertility which manifests itself in a reduced sperm count and a reduced sperm quality. Proviron is therefore taken during a steroid administration or after discontinuing the use of the steroids, to eliminate a possible impotency or a reduced sexual interest. This, however, does not con-tribute to the maintenance of strength and muscle mass after the treatment. There are other better suited compounds for this (see HCG, Clomid, and Teslac). For this reason Proviron is unfortunately considered by many to be a useless and unnecessary compound.
You should be aware that Proviron is also an estrogen antagonist which prevents the aromatization of steroids. Unlike the antiestrogen Nolvadex which only blocks the estrogen receptors (see Nolvadex) Proviron already prevents the aromatizing of steroids. Therefore gynecomastia and increased water retention are successfully blocked. Since Proviron strongly suppresses the forming of estrogens no re-bound effect occurs after discontinuation of use of the compound as is the case with, for example, Nolvadex where an aromatization of the steroids is not prevented. One can say that Nolvadex cures the problem of aromatization at its root while Nolvadex simply cures the symptoms. For this reason male athletes should prefer Proviron to Nolvadex. With Proviron the athlete obtains more muscle hard-ness since the androgen level is increased and the estrogen concen-tration remains low. This, in particular, is noted positively during the preparation for a competition when used in combination with a diet. Female athletes who naturally have a higher estrogen level of-ten supplement their steroid intake with Proviron resulting in increased muscle hardness. In the past it was common for body-builders to take a daily dose of one 25 mg tablet over several weeks, sometimes even months, in order to appear hard all year round. This was especially important for athletes' appearances at guest performances, seminars and photo sessions. Today Clenbuterol is usually taken over the entire year since possible virilization symp-toms cannot occur which is not yet the case with Proviron. Since Proviron is very effective male athletes usually need only 50-mg/ day which means that the athlete usually takes one 25 mg tablet in the morning and another 25 mg tablet in the evening. In some cases one 25 mg tablet per day is sufficient. When combining Proviron with Nolvadex (50 mg Proviron/day and 20 mg Nolvadex/day) this will lead to an almost complete suppression of estrogen. Even better results are achieved with 50 mg Proviron/ day and 500 - 1000 mg Teslac/day. Since Teslac is a very expensive compound (see Teslac) most athletes do not consider this com-bination.
The side effects of Proviron in men are low at a dosage of 24 tab--lets/day so that Proviron, taken for example in combination with a steroid cycle, can be used comparatively without risk over several weeks. Since Proviron is well-tolerated by the liver, liver dysfunc-tions do not occur in the given dosages. For athletes who are used to acting under the motto "more is better" the intake of Proviron could have a paradoxical effect. The most common side effect of Proviron is a distinct sexual overstimulation and in some cases continuous penis erection. Since this condition can be painful and lead to possible damages, a lower dosage or discontinu-ing the compound are the only sensible solutions. "
"Proviron is a synthetic, orally effective androgen which does not have any anabolic characteristics. Proviron is used in school medi-cine to case or cure disturbances caused by a deficiency of male sex hormones. Many athletes, for this reason, often use Proviron at the end of a steroid treatment in order to increase the reduced testoster-one production. This, however, is not a good idea since Proviron has no effect on the body's own testosterone production but-as men-tioned in the beginning-only reduces or completely eliminates the dysfunctions caused by the testosterone deficiency.
sounds like the ideal post cycle treatment.this says proviron has no effect on your own body`s test production,so it shouldn`t bother recovery time.and it eliminates the dysfunctions assosiated with testosterone dysfunctions.
I don`t know about you guys,I`m 39 and it takes 8-10 wks after cycle for me to be back to full swing.I`m four wks post cycle,I`ve been 3 wks clomid therapy,1 wk with nothin.I`ve been having sex 2 a wk last couple wks.the first two wks were the worst,no desire at all.since then it gets better every wk.I think I`ll run 50mg proviron 4 wks,go 8 wks with nothin then start another.
thanks for the replies drveejay,scotty and swamp you kind of lost me on this one.
Later,
sounds like the ideal post cycle treatment.this says proviron has no effect on your own body`s test production,so it shouldn`t bother recovery time.and it eliminates the dysfunctions assosiated with testosterone dysfunctions.
I don`t know about you guys,I`m 39 and it takes 8-10 wks after cycle for me to be back to full swing.I`m four wks post cycle,I`ve been 3 wks clomid therapy,1 wk with nothin.I`ve been having sex 2 a wk last couple wks.the first two wks were the worst,no desire at all.since then it gets better every wk.I think I`ll run 50mg proviron 4 wks,go 8 wks with nothin then start another.
thanks for the replies drveejay,scotty and swamp you kind of lost me on this one.
Later,
swampmoose
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good reply drveejay11. i have never used the stuff, but it sounds like i could use some. i don't mind being horny when my women is around. coming from an AA steriod user, i pretty much stick to the basic combos and what not, but i might give this stuff a shot! thanks.
From my personal experience, Proviron is the best anti-estrogen available. (I hate nolvadex and clomid -- kills my dick). Proviron will help with libido which is a big factor when coming off a cycle. Sure, viagra will do a better job of jacking up the old beanstalk, but if the "urge" isn't there, who cares? With Viagra, it's like your penis is somewhat "disconnected." Weird.
Proviron will add a little "hardness" to your muscles as well, but as is the case with everything, you need to come down eventually and get clean. HCG will elevate estrogen so if gyno is a concern, it may make matters worse, and often does.
Proviron will add a little "hardness" to your muscles as well, but as is the case with everything, you need to come down eventually and get clean. HCG will elevate estrogen so if gyno is a concern, it may make matters worse, and often does.
lawnsaver
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Proviron is great post cycle. It will not suppress you. It will increase libido and increase sperm count. This story is true but the exact numbers might be off a little... In a study done on of 140 men. They were given either 100mg or 150mg for 1 year straight. Testing natural test levels at the end only 11% of the 100mg dose were suppressed( not shut down), and only 18% were suppressed in the group taking 150mg.
The study was done on men trying to have children, but were unable. I think over 50% were successful in conceiving.
Anyway...50-75mg ED for 6-8 weeks will keep androgen levels up, which will increase lidido and increase sperm count. Although it does not have a direct effect on LH and restoring your HPTA, but it is a great addition to add while clomid is doing its job!!
The study was done on men trying to have children, but were unable. I think over 50% were successful in conceiving.
Anyway...50-75mg ED for 6-8 weeks will keep androgen levels up, which will increase lidido and increase sperm count. Although it does not have a direct effect on LH and restoring your HPTA, but it is a great addition to add while clomid is doing its job!!
