protein needs fat to be digested?

[sirbadass]

okay, this may be a stupid question if you know a lot about nutrition, but i don't so here goes....

is it true that the body (the liver i guess) requires fat to properly digest protein and convert it into amino acids? if there's no fat, it just gets converted to sugar? in other words, if you just take straight protein like whey isolate or other powders without fat then you will gain weight but not muscle weight.

if that's true, that's a very important bit of info to know and could dramatically change the way I take my protein. for example, i know a lot of people take protein powder or eat just the white part of eggs without the yolk. isn't it also true that it is cholesterol that creates all endogenous hormones in the body? so if you have a low HDL, then you're sol....

any info appreciated. thanks.

 

[sirbadass]

^ bump for some info....

 

[biogeared]

Bump.

 

[OXANDRIN]

nelson montana made that claim..... your body should have fatty acids available at all times

 

[sirbadass]

Nelson wasn't the first... Vince Gironda made this claim, too.

Paraphrased from http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/guru.htm

"If you separate the white and yolk of the egg, you get an isolated protein. Any time you
separate the white and the yolk of an egg, you get an isolated protein. Any time you
separate protein from fat you're left with an incomplete food. The manufacturers of protein
powders tell you to mix them with juice or water.

Well, let me tell you, folks - you can't digest protein without fat. Vince taught me that and
he was right. When you swallow an egg white, it goes into your stomach and your
stomach says, "Hey, where's the fat?" The white, which is protein, has no vehicle for
conversion, so it's converted to sugar."

This could have a huge impact on my diet and I think it's worth finding out if the above statement has any validity or not.

 

[OXANDRIN]

Nelson wasn't the first... Vince Gironda made this claim, too.

Paraphrased from http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/guru.htm

"If you separate the white and yolk of the egg, you get an isolated protein. Any time you
separate the white and the yolk of an egg, you get an isolated protein. Any time you
separate protein from fat you're left with an incomplete food. The manufacturers of protein
powders tell you to mix them with juice or water.

Well, let me tell you, folks - you can't digest protein without fat. Vince taught me that and
he was right. When you swallow an egg white, it goes into your stomach and your
stomach says, "Hey, where's the fat?" The white, which is protein, has no vehicle for
conversion, so it's converted to sugar."

This could have a huge impact on my diet and I think it's worth finding out if the above statement has any validity or not.

maybe.....

honestly.... i take in flax and fish oils all day. i don't specifically take them with protein........ tonight for dinner i had 1lb of grilled chicken breasts. there isn't much fat in there.....does that mean all i ate was sugar? i don't know

 

[sirbadass]

you don't know? i think it would be worth finding out, don't you? that's a big difference.

also, a whole lb of chicken? is it worth eating more protein than your body can digest and use in one meal? i was always under the assumption that your body can't make adequate use of more than 40-50 grams of protein per 2-3 hours ... ???

 

[sirbadass]

i should also mention that my doc backed up this claim by stating that protein is converted into glucose. i didn't ask him to elaborate .... don't know why i didn't ask that, d'oh!

 

[OXANDRIN]

is it worth eating more protein than your body can digest and use in one meal? i was always under the assumption that your body can't make adequate use of more than 40-50 grams of protein per 2-3 hours ... ???

133 grams of protein and maybe around 600 calories in that meal...

explain to me why i can't take in more than 50 grams of protein in a 2-3 hour period?


maybe it will take 9 hours to digest that meal..... in that case i don't have to worry about taking in protein before i go to bed

 

[OXANDRIN]

i should also mention that my doc backed up this claim by stating that protein is converted into glucose. i didn't ask him to elaborate .... don't know why i didn't ask that, d'oh!

everything i converted into glucose for the most part bro..... fats 15% protein up to 50% and carbs 100%