Protein Factory fails label claims test

[SofaGeorge]

This attack on the PF is pure BS. Sorry, but sabotage of reputation is the #1 attack technique in the natural product industry.

 

[genarr3]

This attack on the PF is pure BS. Sorry, but sabotage of reputation is the #1 attack technique in the natural product industry.

Damn. What do you live inside my head? That's exactly what i was thinking.

The peeps that posted this I've never seen on this board before, and as most of you know I'm here always. I've ordered from PF and will again. This guys sounds to be like a straight up bro to me and I like to think I'm able to spot this sort of thing.

I'd also bet very few OTC sups consistently live up to label claims.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Damn. What do you live inside my head? That's exactly what i was thinking.

The peeps that posted this I've never seen on this board before, and as most of you know I'm here always. I've ordered from PF and will again. This guys sounds to be like a straight up bro to me and I like to think I'm able to spot this sort of thing.

I'd also bet very few OTC sups consistently live up to label claims.

I think we just both tend to apply common sense and experience to most issues.

The Protein Factory has everything to lose and nothing to gain by shorting ingredients. Alex knows his business inside out. He is not ignorant that his products could be tested - hence he would be very unlikely to deliberately short ingredients to make an extra maybe $2 here and there. He has had a long term reputation for taking great pride in running a quality business, and he is envied for his good reputation by his competitors.

And now question the motivation of the "good samaritan" who posts about Alex's negative test? Who does he work for? Why would some common Joe shell the money out of his won pocket to test his $20 order of protein. He is an unknown poster here yet he readily is prepared to post the fully prepared and lengthy material on this site.

The BS meter goes DING DING DING.

This is somebody trying to do a whack job on the protein Factory - nothing more... and it wasn't even a very creative attempt.

 

[rickcorso]

PROTEIN FACTORY ROCKS!!!! ALEX ROCKS!!! I ROCK!!!!!

 

[tony1]

Listen, 1fast400 had the sample from the protein factory tested at the REQUEST of protein factory users on the bodybuilding.com forum. He has tested samples of products that he carries as well in his nutrition store. He has stated in the posts on the bodybuilding.com forum that he doesn't think the protein factory is trying to rip anyone off and this is probably no more than a mixing error. I dont think anyone doubts that by doing testing on products requested by members of the bodybuilding.com he can drum up business but he didn't go out of his way to try to discredit the protein factory. He operates a nutrition store like the many that are out there. I dont think if he discredits the protein factory he is going to have a huge surge in people buying isopure or metrx or whatever when you can get this anywhere. The sample used was mine. People kept asking 1fast if he would do a test of their protein. No one had sent one in so i figured what the hell i'll send one in. Maybe this will stop a lot of the posts like "is the protein factory a scam". I didn't think there would be any discrepencies myself. In fact i didn't want to send it in at first because i didn't want to waste my own powder on a test that was going to be fine anyways. I have used their products exclusively for over a year. I have been contacted by Alex to verify the %'s in the mix that was used. I also don't have any qualms about using them again. THe test was done. There probably was an error in mixing. In the order that I placed after this one I had 3 ERRORS including someone mixing the wrong protein in a mix so its not so far fetched. My order was corrected and everything is fine.

 

[1fast400]

I think we just both tend to apply common sense and experience to most issues.

haha, after reading the following you'll realize you should have used some common sense.

The Protein Factory has everything to lose and nothing to gain by shorting ingredients. Alex knows his business inside out. He is not ignorant that his products could be tested - hence he would be very unlikely to deliberately short ingredients to make an extra maybe $2 here and there. He has had a long term reputation for taking great pride in running a quality business, and he is envied for his good reputation by his competitors.

Nobody doubts this. Alex has a business that I assume he can't run by himself. If Alex has a stupid person working for him or someone that get angry at him, his products will suffer. I don't think Alex ever intended for his products to be this way, but in this case (and many others if you read the bb.com thread) it happened.

And now question the motivation of the "good samaritan" who posts about Alex's negative test? Who does he work for? Why would some common Joe shell the money out of his won pocket to test his $20 order of protein. He is an unknown poster here yet he readily is prepared to post the fully prepared and lengthy material on this site.

Um, ok I guess you win the award for lack of research. I post on over 10 message boards over the internet with a total post count of about 6,000. I own a nutrition store and online business. I've tested over 12 proteins (which you would have found had you done a search under my name). I'm also the one that did the testing on HDT's 1-AD and found it underdosed at 28mg per 100mg cap. I'm not "joe", I'm much more than that. If you would have done some reading you would know this.

The BS meter goes DING DING DING.

Something tells me this bell doesn't ring as loud right now.

This is somebody trying to do a whack job on the protein Factory - nothing more... and it wasn't even a very creative attempt.

I'm not trying to be creative, that is the job of muscletech and biotest. I'm reporting results I found from a very credible lab. Go do some more research before you post such ignorant information.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Something tells me this bell doesn't ring as loud right now.

Actually, the BS meter reads even louder. No one would post on 10 boards without a vested financial interest in their posting. That invalidates you as someone who would participate in an unbiased testing of a competitor's products.

 

[OKIE]

I can't say for sure the reasons for the discrepencies in the PF's mixes. What I can give is my own personal recommendation for the Protein Factory and Alex. I have used there product for the last 3 years, and while I have had some mistakes made with my order, they were always corrected proficiently. I will admit that it would be difficult to mix many different supplements into one batch and have it be 100% consistent. For those of you who need this kind of consistency, I recommend getting individual supplements from the PF and mixing them yourself. The reason Alex and his company can offer a good product at such low prices is:

1.) Alex does a lot of the work himself which cuts down on overhead
2.) They spend next to nothing on marketing, advertising, and labeling of there product

Alex has always seemed to be a stand-up guy and has always treated every customer I know in a professional manner. I will continue to order from him and suggest the same to everyone else.

 

[1fast400]

No one would post on 10 boards without a vested financial interest in their posting

I hope your joking right? I see MANY of the same people (at least they use the same handles) on these message boards, I guess they ALL must gain financially from it....jesus...

 

[SofaGeorge]

I hope your joking right? I see MANY of the same people (at least they use the same handles) on these message boards, I guess they ALL must gain financially from it....jesus...

Yeah, right, and they are all good samaritan's shelling money out of their own pockets to test health products for the good of others... then they make sure they multi post the same post to different forums.

Ocham's razor... look for the simplest answer.