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Protein Diet....

Lee

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To start, I've been dropping weight for the past 5 months steadily. I'm 6'4" and used to weigh 250 pounds. I now weigh 217 and im 17 years old. I lift weights every day and started a high protein low carb diet about 2 weeks ago. I honestly have not noticed any difference in the amoun of fat I am loosing, although my arms are improving more than usual. I'm wondering if this diet is a good idea in the first place. I eat around 200 grams of protein a day including 2 or 3 Nitro Tech drinks during the day. I eat less that 20 grams of carbs a day but haven't really noticed a drop in my energy.

If this diet is in fact a bad idea for someone like me, does anyone know what sort of diet I should be on to drop fat and gain muscle mass?

Thanks in advance for any input/feedback.
 
buy some ketostix. You may actually be taking in too much protein which can be converted to glycogen at a 58% efficiency. So despite your efforts to remail carbless, your body may be processing the protein as blood sugar. You need to up your fat intake and make sure you arne't going over your caloric goal for the day. bodyweight x 12 should work fine.
 
Your fat intake should be nothing more than flax oil, olive oil and fish oil, only for the first 3 meals. No fats after that. Also, make sure your starchy carbs (potatoes, rice) are only eaten in the first 3 meals, only fibrous carbs for the last 3 meals (broccoli).

Sounds like your carbs are too low. 20 grams is not enough.

Make sure you're doing cardio in the AM before you eat.
 
dont really have time for cardio. no in house excersize stuff, and im still in high school, and i live in alaska, so no outdoor running in the am. :P
 
surgical... below 20 g's of carbs = hes most likely on a KETO diet. Because of this, he does not take in any starchy carbs and is fat dependent for energy. As for cardio, you can do it any time of the day, and as we recently discovered, it shouldn't make a bit of difference....due to the fact that you have no glycogen being utilized and therefore no time related effectiveness window for maximum uptake.
 
you started this diet only 2 weeks ago and you're expecting to see noticeable gains already?

dude...

i totally disagree with your diet but that's not the point. the point is that you should wait a month before seeing noticeable results. you know, body composition changes slightly from day to day. that's why one day you'll weigh, for example, 200, and the next day your 202, the following day, 203, and then back to 200 the next day. it's a combination of water intake and retention, diet, exercise, supplementation, etc etc etc.

bottom line...

give any diet at least 4 weeks before getting all excited or dissapointed.

peace;)
 
yeah My water weight flucuates alot during the day, normally about 3 pounds, but I tend to pound down a 32ounce water in between every class, and during class... so I know I gain atleast 2 pounds waterweight a day, but am normally back down to my normal morning weight, if not lower in the morning.


Has anyone else noticed this though... I weigh myself before showering sometimes after I have worked out hard and am sometimes about 1-1.5 pounds heavier (naked), then after drying off after a shower and reweighing?
 
Lee:

How much fat are you getting in your diet? You can't drop fat and carbs and expect to get anywhere. Either do a zone diet..33% ratio for all nutrients, or go keto. Honestly, one or the other. Hi protein, low fat, low carbs doesn't work.
 
Now that I think about it, a keto diet might not be for you. At age 17, its going to be way to intrusive on your lifestyle. Run a zone diet and get some ALA. YOu will definitely see some pounds come off as long as you watch your calories.
 
ZKaudio said:
Now that I think about it, a keto diet might not be for you. At age 17, its going to be way to intrusive on your lifestyle. Run a zone diet and get some ALA. YOu will definitely see some pounds come off as long as you watch your calories.

Then again, he could prolly use the lesson of willpower at this stage in life.

But if you decide to do the zone type diet, then yeah, get a good multivitamin, glucorell-r from anabolicfitness.com which is r-ALA, get some NYC from there as well if your body can take that kinda stuff.
 
I'm not saying im dissappointed in the results, I was just wondering if this diet really does work in the long run. I know it'll take me a while to get to where I want to be physically. Here's what I eat daily:

Breakfast: 3 eggs, 4 strips of bacon, 1 quart of water
Lunch: Nitro Tech Protein shake = 40g of protein
After school snack: about 15 potato chips, nitro tech shake
Dinner: steak or pork chop, nitro tech shake

this is all i eat daily. i was told by a personal trainer that this would be effective, but im guessing most people here know more than some nincumpoop personal trainer. should i make any adjustments? anyone have any suggestions on exactly what i should eat?
 
You may want to stop watching the scale so much also.

I'm, 20lbs lighter than I was when I got my act together a year and a half ago.I've heard I've lost as much as 40lbs from people that haven't seen me in awhile.Muscle weighs a hell of alot more than fat.

Mad
 
Lee: Here.. A diet I made just for you. No keto involved, tho if you'd want to go that route we can help with that also.

Total calories on training days:
2600

Ratio: 33%fat, protein, and carbs (Zone diet) yes you will have to start reading labels if you don't already.

You will eat 6 meals per day. Each meal will not mix fat or carbs together. The reasoning for that is that when you're dieting, you really don't want ingested fat to possibly be stored because of the insulin spike of carbs. This can be prevented by eating low GI carbs and not having that large a spike, but it's safer this way, in my opinion.

Each meal will consist of 35 grams of protein. Now, remember, each meal will be either protein and carbs, or protein and fat. So, 3 meals out of the day will contain 35 protein and 70 carbs. The other 3 meals will contain 35 protein and 30 fat. Your first meal of the day should contain carbs, and the last meal should have the fat.

The above is the diet to follow on the days you workout. Since you're trying to lose fat however, you shouldn't really be taking too many days off, plus, I'd rather get to the gym and workout for an hour or so than sit around all day and eat less and be miserable. Plus you will be having a cheat day one day per week in which I don't recommend doing any training. Just let your muscles soak up the glucose instead of using it as energy for a workout.

If you decide to be lazy or for some reason cant workout on a given day, then each meal will look like this: 30 protein per meal, and 60 grams of carbs in the carb meals and 25 fat in the fat meals. Doesn't look like much of a difference but it's a 400 calorie drop .

Also, one day per week, like I said you get a cheat day, which IS NOT a license to go eat 5 lbs of fat. You wan't to take in sugars, and not really any fruit either. See, there's different kinds of sugars, and fructose fills up your liver pretty quick so i've learned (once your liver is filled you're going to be storing the carbs as fat), so you want to stick to avoiding fructose. best thing to do is look for products that have dextrose or maltodextrin in them. (I picked up a small thing of Phospahgen from EAS at the local Musclemag shop. Cost 7 bucks. ) Have a few servings of that stuff for your first few meals along with small amounts of protein, then switch over to some regular whole carb foods like cereals and if you want to have a few slices of pizza or whatever or cake, go ahead, just don't go overboard. This cheat day also helps regulate leptin and thyroid which I don't know too much about so i won't even bother going into detail to begin with on those topics.

Anyway...Workouts..Pretty simple I guess..Try to keep your carb ups to sunday, and then do 3 bodyparts on Monday, and 3 bodyparts on Tuesday..Low reps..Pick 2 exercises per part and do a 10-8-6 for each one to failure. These workouts should help your body to try and "remember" to maintain your muscle mass. The rest of the week, go do about half hour of cardio, then saturday you can do a full body circuit workout with high reps, like 20-25..Just pick one exercise for each bodypart, do one set each, and take 1 minute rest in between sets. Do about 3 circuits. And do not go to failure. Stop about 3 reps from failure. Actually what you should do is do this workout on Sunday and immidiately after, start your cheating.

get yourself some Glucorell-r from anabolicfitness.com which is alpha lipoic acid and helps push a lot more glycogen into your muscles (great for the cheat day) and also get a good fat burner (NYC from the same site is a good one), and get a mutivitamin, and Flax oil for a good portion fo the fat in your diet. Don't get pills, get the oil.

That's all i can really say. If anyone else wants to add or correct or clarify, go for it. Otherwise try this out for 8 weeks and let me know how it goes.
 
thanks burning, ill have to find out what to eat before i actually start the diet though... thats the hard part
 
well for starters, meat! And get a decent Whey protein supplement, and also casein if you can as well, or maybe mix and match a whey/soy combo. Buy a jug of each and mix the scoops together. You;d only want whey right after workout tho. And it's good to have simple carbs right after workouts as well. Usually your gym will sell post workout recovery drinks. Mass Recovery by ABB for example is what my gym has and it seems to be a decent product.

Then check outhttp://www.mendosa.com/gi.htm for a listing of many foods on the glycemic index. Usually you'd want to pick from the carbs that digest over a longer period of time and are low on the scale so they won't cause an insulin spike, however sice you hopefully won't be eating any fats with your carbs in mals, I don't personally think it would matter, just don't go too hi, because I don't know how long your insulin levels will be elevated if you ate a high GI carb meal, I mean you wouldn't want to eat the fat meal too soon after eating your post workout carb meal, as the insulin might not be down and you will possibly store all that fat intake.
 
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