Proposed 1st CYCLE!

[swordfish151]

Ok so im getting down to the BF (13%) i need to start my first cycle.
My stats :
26yrs old
5'6
currently at 15% Bf (down from 19%)
been training ON/ON since 16yrs old.
have blood work before start of first cycle

Gear:
Sustanon (organon, turkey) 12 amps

PCT:

Nolva 20mgs per tab (zeneca, greece)
HCG 5000 iu (pregnyl, israil) vial/solvent

Pins:

23G 1.5" (cotton swabs/rub alcohol as well)

Food:

fish, lean cut meats, chicken, eggs, yams, whole wheat breads, oatmeal etc.
(want to hit at least 4000 cals a day)

What im going to do is 250mgs a/wk of sust for 10/wks...just 250 not 500, i understand that i would get better gains off of 500mgs a week and that i would be ok, but i really want to understand how this is going to work for me the first time around, and im willing to be patient. Im going to be injecting every Sunday. regimn as follows.

Sust : 250/mgs a/wk every sunday for 10 wks
PCT: Nolva on hand in case of gyno, 1wk after last shot 20mgs of Nolva for 3wks.

Now i dont know if i have the PCT down right, im still a little unclear on the HCG (i understand what it does), have read alot of threads on it...some say its not necessary if its your first cycle some say take it "just in case" , need help on this..if i am going to take the HCG how much and when should i take it? is the Nolva dosage right on..or does it need to be adjusted? Let me know how my first cycle looks?

 

[swordfish151]

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[sweed]

Looks great! - we have to start getting people to propose cycles like this ^^

I would say do the HCG along with the nolva for 3 weeks, at (i beleive it was this..) 500 iu's m/w/f.. you have 5,000 so all u would need is 4500 ius
Im taking it (hcg) midcycle and for the first 3 weeks of pct for my first... nolva dosages are right

Good luck , when does it start?

 

[Dial_tone]

I would do 250mg E5D, slightly higher.

 

[StereOMaN]

I would think you might want to run the Nolva @ 40mg/ed, other than that cycle sounds good!

 

[swordfish151]

Looks great! - we have to start getting people to propose cycles like this ^^

I would say do the HCG along with the nolva for 3 weeks, at (i beleive it was this..) 500 iu's m/w/f.. you have 5,000 so all u would need is 4500 ius
Im taking it (hcg) midcycle and for the first 3 weeks of pct for my first... nolva dosages are right

Good luck , when does it start?

starts 04-05!!! wanting to squeeze that extra fat off me first!!!

 

[sweed]

starts 04-05!!! wanting to squeeze that extra fat off me first!!!

2004 - 2005, lol.. i guessing april, 5th.... taking anything for the fat loss?? i just bought some AG - liquiclen.. for my rats of course

 

[swordfish151]

2004 - 2005, lol.. i guessing april, 5th.... taking anything for the fat loss?? i just bought some AG - liquiclen.. for my rats of course

yup, currently on some t-rex and a clean diet...last october was on t3/clen...but right now, just alot of cardio and good clean food

 

[sweed]

yup, currently on some t-rex and a clean diet...last october was on t3/clen...but right now, just alot of cardio and good clean food

loose much muscle with the t3? i reallly want to try it out with no AS for my competition. I can't run AS with it because my cycle ends in mid June and i am going to be off for at least 4 months and comp is in sept.

 

[swordfish151]

loose much muscle with the t3? i reallly want to try it out with no AS for my competition. I can't run AS with it because my cycle ends in mid June and i am going to be off for at least 4 months and comp is in sept.

you know sweed to be honest with you...i dont think i did..i mean i noticed a dramatic change in my stomach area..and i mean dramatic...at first i thought that it wasnt working, but when i put on my slacks...oh yeah it worked..but keep in mind i only did 25mcgs of it and only for 4 wks..never rammped up any higher..so i could have lost more muslce with a higher dosage but didnt with the lower.

 

[sweed]

i was thinking about running low dosages without going to high/ normal peak doasges. I dont want to loose as much muscle as i did last summer, just going crazy tryin to loose weight. gym 3 times a day, 7 days a week, very restricted diet, t-rex, clen.. things will be different this time.. thanks again for the feedback bro

 

[swordfish151]

i was thinking about running low dosages without going to high/ normal peak doasges. I dont want to loose as much muscle as i did last summer, just going crazy tryin to loose weight. gym 3 times a day, 7 days a week, very restricted diet, t-rex, clen.. things will be different this time.. thanks again for the feedback bro

I hear ya bro....but i admire your dedication..3X a day!! wow!!! good luck though
"You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Sweed again."

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Ok so im getting down to the BF (13%) i need to start my first cycle.
My stats :
26yrs old
5'6
currently at 15% Bf (down from 19%)
been training ON/ON since 16yrs old.
have blood work before start of first cycle

Gear:
Sustanon (organon, turkey) 12 amps

PCT:

Nolva 20mgs per tab (zeneca, greece)
HCG 5000 iu (pregnyl, israil) vial/solvent

Pins:

23G 1.5" (cotton swabs/rub alcohol as well)

Food:

fish, lean cut meats, chicken, eggs, yams, whole wheat breads, oatmeal etc.
(want to hit at least 4000 cals a day)

What im going to do is 250mgs a/wk of sust for 10/wks...just 250 not 500, i understand that i would get better gains off of 500mgs a week and that i would be ok, but i really want to understand how this is going to work for me the first time around, and im willing to be patient. Im going to be injecting every Sunday. regimn as follows.

Sust : 250/mgs a/wk every sunday for 10 wks
PCT: Nolva on hand in case of gyno, 1wk after last shot 20mgs of Nolva for 3wks.

Now i dont know if i have the PCT down right, im still a little unclear on the HCG (i understand what it does), have read alot of threads on it...some say its not necessary if its your first cycle some say take it "just in case" , need help on this..if i am going to take the HCG how much and when should i take it? is the Nolva dosage right on..or does it need to be adjusted? Let me know how my first cycle looks?

Looks good, dont underestimate your complex carbs intake,,, rice, yams, oatmeal, whole wheat is OK,

 

[swordfish151]

Looks good, dont underestimate your complex carbs intake,,, rice, yams, oatmeal, whole wheat is OK,

thanks for the input bro!

 

[BOOEY]

Good to see someone actually researching before starting their cycle. Looks good bro! Eat like crazy and you'll grow like crazy.

 

[swordfish151]

Good to see someone actually researching before starting their cycle. Looks good bro! Eat like crazy and you'll grow like crazy.

thanks bro!! planning on it!!!!

 

[buffalo]

Good first cycle, no need to go to high your first time.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

I would do 250mg E5D, slightly higher.

Right out my mouth!

 

[swordfish151]

Right out my mouth!

I think for now im just going to do the 250mgs...500mgs would be my 2nd cycle...thanks though diamond!

 

[DiamondCutCows]

I think for now im just going to do the 250mgs...500mgs would be my 2nd cycle...thanks though diamond!

Thats a fine cycle bro. I know you've been reading here for a bit so Im sure you'll do great. I just hate to see someonw with 2 extra amps lying around. Why not run 12 weeks?

 

[swordfish151]

Thats a fine cycle bro. I know you've been reading here for a bit so Im sure you'll do great. I just hate to see someonw with 2 extra amps lying around. Why not run 12 weeks?

hmm 12 wks...i think that could be a solid plan...

 

[DiamondCutCows]

hmm 12 wks...i think that could be a solid plan...

Oh yes it can.

If you got the amps lying there, why not? Still low dosage and still a simple cycle. Just consider it giving yourself more time to adapt to the gains...