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chudzman

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Allright.... this question is directed towards al the pre-disposed people like me.
Can propecia have negative side effects if used with gear?

I was going to start a dbols, sust, winny cycle.

Any input would be greatly apreciated.


thx..

Karma will be given in exchange for help!

Also, if anyone feels like recommending shampoos or wha ever... please do so!

Thx again
 
Gguy9 said:
Why not wash hair everyday?
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I'm gonna assume that if you rub your head, like when you wash your hair, you can help the hair fall out. Perhaps if you wait til the cycler is over and the androgens are out of your system, your hair will stengthen again.
 
tical said:
dont use it with deca and other nandrolones

works fine w/ everything else
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Can someone explain why? I've seen this before... even seen the theory behind it. My problem is, the people stating that theory thus far weren't the vets and pros that post on this board -- and I believe those guys far about anyone else.

Not challenging this statment mind you... just wanting a few EF pros to say "yup, seen it happen".

Lets say you were doing 250 test / 450 deca -- what would be better? Propecia to keep the test from aromatizing, or no Propecia since there is deca involved?
 
Read carefully:

1. If you pre-disposed to MPB, the winny is a terrible choice, maybe the worest.

2. Propecia's "side effects" if any at all are miniature compared with your projected hairloss from the testosterone as you're predisposed to MPB.

3. You may wash your hair everyday. Washing you hair will not and cannot influence your hair follicles/scalp against any androgen binding sensitivity.

4. You may use propecia with Deca/Tren, particularely if test is a part of the cycle, the propecia will make more good than harm. The DHN, 5-ar issue harm on your hair has not been proven.

5. Use Avodart, it's much more effective for hairloss and bph than Propecia.
 
chudzman said:
Allright.... this question is directed towards al the pre-disposed people like me.
Can propecia have negative side effects if used with gear?

I was going to start a dbols, sust, winny cycle.

Any input would be greatly apreciated.


thx..

Karma will be given in exchange for help!

Also, if anyone feels like recommending shampoos or wha ever... please do so!

Thx again
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Dbols, from what I've read (haven't used them) can be a hair killer.

Propecia prevents the aromitization of test to dht, hence it will protect at least against the Sust since it's just a test blend. I've read that since Winny is derived from DHT, the Propecia really can't help there. I have no history of MPB in my family, but as best I can tell Winny really thinned me out.

And lastly, my doc told me that Propecia can contribute to bad liver profiles, but unless one of the vets or pros on this board verifies it, I wouldn't just run with that statement.

The biggest problem is, you shed hair naturally and what your hair is doing today is the result of 2-4 weeks ago (or even 4-6). To make it worse, the hair that falls out isn't the issue -- it's how strong and sound the hair that fills it's place is. In full-blown MPB, you still regenerate hair at first, it's just weaker and finer each time until it's peach fuzz, then it's gone. That makes the lag on detecting whether something is working or not realisticaly about 2 months.

I wish we had more stuff here on thinning hair -- I need help too!
 
Now that I think about it... let's call on the vets to help us design 3-4 "hair friendly" cycles!!! :)
 
junk said:
Read carefully:

1. If you pre-disposed to MPB, the winny is a terrible choice, maybe the worest.

2. Propecia's "side effects" if any at all are miniature compared with your projected hairloss from the testosterone as you're predisposed to MPB.

3. You may wash your hair everyday. Washing you hair will not and cannot influence your hair follicles/scalp against any androgen binding sensitivity.

4. You may use propecia with Deca/Tren, particularely if test is a part of the cycle, the propecia will make more good than harm. The DHN, 5-ar issue harm on your hair has not been proven.

5. Use Avodart, it's much more effective for hairloss and bph than Propecia.
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Whatabout Anavar?
 
Thx guys.... karma for every one!

what shampoos do u guys recommend that actually help hair loss... ? I read a hell of a lot of things... but sometimes... the "facts" out there are a little exgerated... Some first hand experience would be apreciated.
 
junk said:
Read carefully:

1. If you pre-disposed to MPB, the winny is a terrible choice, maybe the worest.

2. Propecia's "side effects" if any at all are miniature compared with your projected hairloss from the testosterone as you're predisposed to MPB.

3. You may wash your hair everyday. Washing you hair will not and cannot influence your hair follicles/scalp against any androgen binding sensitivity.

4. You may use propecia with Deca/Tren, particularely if test is a part of the cycle, the propecia will make more good than harm. The DHN, 5-ar issue harm on your hair has not been proven.

5. Use Avodart, it's much more effective for hairloss and bph than Propecia.
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Avodart, I read, can cause heart palpitations... and is a very new product that hasn't really been tested for side effects... altho... it is true I read it is a lot more efficient then propecia...
 
chudzman said:
Avodart, I read, can cause heart palpitations... and is a very new product that hasn't really been tested for side effects... altho... it is true I read it is a lot more efficient then propecia...
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If anything, it can cause heart palpitations much less than clen or even some OTC meds can cause. It's one of these side-effects that usually affect near zero of populations. God, read the leaflets of some OTC meds side effects. I once read the leaflet of an OTC stomach pain killer, can't remember the substance, but one of the side effects was death (LOL).. I've been using Avodart for years, much better. much.
 
Yeah.. dying is as bad as it gets side effect wise...

But whats real important is the shampoo recommendations I am waiting for... i really dont wanna go bald to fast...

KARMA for help... thanx
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
DIV is that a photoshop cartoon of u in your avi?
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You know it, nugga.....

STR8 BaLLin'.....

I can drop chalk now the bitches wanna rub me........:lmao:



DIV

:chomp:
 
junk said:
Read carefully:

1. If you pre-disposed to MPB, the winny is a terrible choice, maybe the worest.

2. Propecia's "side effects" if any at all are miniature compared with your projected hairloss from the testosterone as you're predisposed to MPB.

3. You may wash your hair everyday. Washing you hair will not and cannot influence your hair follicles/scalp against any androgen binding sensitivity.

4. You may use propecia with Deca/Tren, particularely if test is a part of the cycle, the propecia will make more good than harm. The DHN, 5-ar issue harm on your hair has not been proven.

5. Use Avodart, it's much more effective for hairloss and bph than Propecia.
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Great post, JunkFunk.....

You really know some shit.



DIV

:chomp:
 
Hey Mrplunkey, you need to click on the link in my post about Fina and Hairloss. StewMeat explained the whole androgen and propecia thing in detail. It's a good post.
 
Watson said:
Hey Mrplunkey, you need to click on the link in my post about Fina and Hairloss. StewMeat explained the whole androgen and propecia thing in detail. It's a good post.
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I saw that link and chased it. It had a lot of theory on why Deca and Propecia don't mix, I just can't find people who report problems with that combination.

I see a lot of people who say "winny reamed my hair" or "dbol/test sped-up my MPB"... I don't see people saying "Deca + Fina tore me a new one".

I don't doubt it, mind you -- I'm just looking for people who've experienced it first-hand.
 
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