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other than the lameness of taking ED injections. is this a beneficial cycle for a first timer?
8 weeks
Test Prop 100mg ED
+PCT
8 weeks
Test Prop 100mg ED
+PCT
Prop only
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yup.. and the benefit to taking just one drug is that you get to actually feel how IT works. Many first timers take 3-4 drugs and have no idea what works for them and what didn't. also, no idea what causes bad sides, and what doesn't.
Prop only was my first steriod. And I only did it for 6 weeks. It was a good ice breaker. 100mg a day is plenty.
Read up on other people injection methods to make sure that you don't get sore from the inject spots. Massage for 10+ minutes, heat pad, etc. And don't stick your calves! My favs are glutes, quads, shoulders.
Keep it simple, and good luck bro.
Prop only was my first steriod. And I only did it for 6 weeks. It was a good ice breaker. 100mg a day is plenty.
Read up on other people injection methods to make sure that you don't get sore from the inject spots. Massage for 10+ minutes, heat pad, etc. And don't stick your calves! My favs are glutes, quads, shoulders.
Keep it simple, and good luck bro.
Prizz
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Yeah, the only problem I can see is the soreness youre gonna get from Prop, and ED injections..... For your 1st time, you might get turned off by it, but Prop is a great drug for a 1st timer..... Maybe do 200mg EoD instead? Could help a lil bit..... With Prop, you will prob be a lil sore post injection, so I'd try to stay away from Quads too.... Makes walking a bit hard.... Glutes and shoulders are my favorite spots with Prop.... I can handle sore glutes or sore shoulders..... Good luck man....
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daveyboy2345
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looking to lean said:
I highly doubt you'll need to use 700mgs a week. 6 weeks of prop is long enough imho. If you shoot mon, wed, friday, sunday you'll do fine on 400mgs week. Keep an anti aroma on hand just in case
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thanx for the input. Im just looking at all my options right now. I have Test P, Test E, EQ and Winny.
Im seriously considering Test E and finishing with Test P. over 15 weeks.
then I thought about kick starting with Test P into Test E then finish with Test P. but getting my blood levels to look less then irratic (on a graph) is too difficult. so back to Test E finishing with Test P.
Now Im scraping that whole idea. Going back to the easiest plan possible. 8 weeks Test P. This will, as they say, KISS (keep it simple stupid).
My biggest problem now is that Im still too heavy. Ive been dieting for 2 months. lost alot of fat and built some decent muscle. Im an easy gainer (fat and muscle). I have all this gear staring me in the face and knowing its for later is difficult.
Would I be wasting the 8 week cycle by doing it now? My diet has been great for the 2 months Ive been dedicated to it. My training regimen has always been good since way back when (12 years weight lifting). I know AAS wont make me skinnier, but I do know that more lean muscle mass will............... if i keep up a clean diet (higher cals of course) and hit the 8 week Prop cycle, would I be looking at any quality gains?
In reality, I have no problem waiting to do any cycle, but I just got an email about my alumni football game coming up....... ~hint hint nudge nudge~
Im seriously considering Test E and finishing with Test P. over 15 weeks.
then I thought about kick starting with Test P into Test E then finish with Test P. but getting my blood levels to look less then irratic (on a graph) is too difficult. so back to Test E finishing with Test P.
Now Im scraping that whole idea. Going back to the easiest plan possible. 8 weeks Test P. This will, as they say, KISS (keep it simple stupid).
My biggest problem now is that Im still too heavy. Ive been dieting for 2 months. lost alot of fat and built some decent muscle. Im an easy gainer (fat and muscle). I have all this gear staring me in the face and knowing its for later is difficult.
Would I be wasting the 8 week cycle by doing it now? My diet has been great for the 2 months Ive been dedicated to it. My training regimen has always been good since way back when (12 years weight lifting). I know AAS wont make me skinnier, but I do know that more lean muscle mass will............... if i keep up a clean diet (higher cals of course) and hit the 8 week Prop cycle, would I be looking at any quality gains?
In reality, I have no problem waiting to do any cycle, but I just got an email about my alumni football game coming up....... ~hint hint nudge nudge~
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factory46 said:
Nose Tackle. so Ive always been on the heavy side of things... I get the fun job of 'plugging the gaps'
When you are 6'fukall' and 300lbs... thats the position you get
(im no longer 300lbs thankfully)I did however play well enough to get a scholarship
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drrman said:
well technically, this isnt my first. but as many before myself, my first cycle was poorly planned and under-educated.... PCT'huh?
Ive picked up some Illusion Labs Prop, which is suppsed to be 'painless'.
I dont mind the ED or EoD injections. I had Prop in my 'first' cycle. I know what its all about. and it wasnt the 'painless' type.
So under your recomendations.. Ill do EoD inj of 150mg Prop for 8 weeks.
would this light cycle require HCG throughout? (250-500iu EW)
I have HCG, Nolva, letro and ADex on hand. oh and AIFM on the way.
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bca21 said:
my next cycle will be Test E, EQ and winny. i have them all right now. but I have all this Prop as well. I figured I would hit a 'quick' 8 week cycle of prop in the meantime.
nothing is set in stone about doing it. just getting some advice is all. hard to look at all this gear and not wanna dabble a lil. although I have been drooling over it for months.
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drrman said:
my natural test will be shut down, but why do my nuts have to be? as Swoles protocol suggests, its easier to keep them at a nominal level throughout, than to try and get them back from complete shut down post cycle.
My only doubt is that this cycle is so light and short that my nuts wont be shut down too hard for too long.
Im going to post this question in the PCT forum......
macrophage69alpha
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many people reccomend mid cycle HCG boost, whether it makes a difference in overall recovery is not known nor clear (it may)
