Prop enanthate 2nd cycle

[pince]

Ok so I have ran one cycle before about a year ago and I was pretty uneducated and irresponsible. This time I am going to have a plan and stick to it so I'm looking for advice. On hand I have 1500 mg of prop, 5500 mg of enanthate, 1000 mg of anavar and a couple bottles of Dianavar. Maybe 12 pills of exemastine.

I'm gonna run this;

Wks 1-11 500wk enanthate
Wks 11-15 100 eod prop
Wks 1-4 superdrol 30 mg a day
Last cycle I ran test enanthate for a long time and didn't retain water and I'm hoping for the same this time but I'm worried the superdrol kick will increase my water weight.

When I finish I will run just chlomid and nolva as normal.

Right now I'm 210 lbs and I have been lifting powerlifting for years now. 31 yrs old.

I'm curious to know your opinions on this cycle as well as any training that people would recommend during this to.increase being tone yet gaining strength and size.

Thanks

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[pince]

One other thing. I would love to run the anavar that I have but I only have enough for about two weeks. Any suggestions on that? Also last time I ran using the same pin that I draw the test with. I've been informed that is a bad idea. What's up with that?

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[dylangemelli]

it sounds like you still don't know what your doing...

if you are scared superdrol will give you water weight then why are you running it? why run something you don't even know if you want to run? you can kickstart with tbol instead and not have to worry about it or you can kickstart with the prop... you should also be running aromasin for gyno and water retention... there is nothing you can do with only two weeks of anavar... you need to get more and run it on the back end of your cycle... your pct is a fucking mess...

pct
clomid 25/25/25/25
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol
daa powerchews or powder

 

[Texas Monster]

If I were you I would not stack the prop at the end of your cycle like that. IT will skyrocket your test levels for the first two weeks while you are lowering your enathate levels. I can guarentee that you will have sides from high test levels in weeks 11,12,13 and they will subside the last two weeks. Just expect extra water retention, acne on your face and shoulders as well as other androgenic sides if you decide to switch to prop at the end of your cycle while you still have a high level of long ester test floating around.

If you can drop the prop and grab some more var and run it to clean up the end of your cycle. Run it for 6 weeks and this will give you that nice transition into pct that you are looking for and not just waiting for your levels to come down. If you absolutely want to run the prop run it on the front side as a jump start if you do not want to take an oral jumpstart and are worried about water weight.

Cycle Plan
Week 1-11 Test e 500mg
Week 1-4 Test Prop 100mg eod OR Tbol 40mg ed ( I would just stick with tbol but if you want to run prop I would do it here)
Week 10-15 Var 40-60mg ed

ON cycle Support
Hcgenerate
N2Gaurd
Lipid Stable (Var can have an adverse side on your lipids)
Forma Stanzol
Adex

PCT
Listen To dylans pct he has it spot on.


Side note: DROP THE NOLVA AND NEVER USE IT AGAIN IT IS SHITTY AND WORTHLESS

 

[pince]

Thanks guys..... Thoughts on the pins for draw and injection? Is it necessary to switch the needle after drawing and before injection?

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[kc17]

I would run the drol and prop the 1 st 4 weeks , you can't keep water retention at bay with aromasin or arimidex , I usually draw with a bigger needle (18) and pin with a 25 g or 23g depends where I'm injecting . 2 wks of anavar won't do much for you , save it until you have for at least 6 wks

 

[joeblow12345]

Thanks guys..... Thoughts on the pins for draw and injection? Is it necessary to switch the needle after drawing and before injection?

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Yes its a good idea to swap needles. They get dull when you draw with them and it makes it a little more painful. Also there is an increased chance of contamination.

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[pince]

I'm gonna do prop 1-4 and e 1-11....
I didn't have water retention last time and I didn't have any issues with anything on.cycle. since that's the case do I need to worry about it? Someone told me there is risk of getting the little plastic off the vial in the needle if I use the same one. Is that true? I had no problem before with it.

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[nb01741]

It doesn't matter if you switch needles... nothing is going to get stuck in the needle unless maybe your using an 18 gauge (and you're not going to pin with that anyways) and it's still unlikely. You can switch if you want for pain purposes but if you've done it in the past there's really nothing to worry about.

 

[pince]

That's what I was thinking. Stupid paranoia sometimes I guess. Doesn't hurt that bad tho. I kinda think I don't need to go spending all this money.on tons of on support and pct. Just some basics is all ill need imo. Liver and immune system, fish oils, good diet and pct on hand. Never had bloatin before so that's not a worry really with test. I know superdrol will hold water weight so ill wait with that and stick to prop, enanthate, and then pct after. Maybe get some.more Var for the back end but that's it

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