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Prohormones vs. juice
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brandonp005
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I like the juice better. I did a cycle of Monsterdrol/Cyclotren though and did love it. Just prefer the pin!
Depends on what you plan to use. Some have very comparable results in terms of strength, vascularity and lean gains.
prohormones = aas
So technically, you will be juicing.
prohormones = aas
So technically, you will be juicing.
J
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Most pro hormones are garbage.Not worth the sides you get from them and the conversion of finished product is usually very low to the amount of mg you have to take. plenty of OTC steroids out now to bother with pro hormones that are way out dated. You just have to educate your self and know what to get.
I'm wondering the same thing actually. i have run some before with great results and I have run the juice a couple of times.
i want to try more prohormones but don't want to buy garbage. Anyway someone can point me in the right direction?
Are any of these good? (fuck i sound like a newbie)
www.supplementwarehouse.com: Atkins Diet, Fat Burner, Vitamin C, Vitamin E
i want to try more prohormones but don't want to buy garbage. Anyway someone can point me in the right direction?
Are any of these good? (fuck i sound like a newbie)
www.supplementwarehouse.com: Atkins Diet, Fat Burner, Vitamin C, Vitamin E
brandonp005
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Monsterdrol and Xtreme Tren-XXL by Supplements 911 BodyBuilding Supplements, Sports Nutrition and Sport Supplements Wholesale all at JustAddMuscle - Bodybuilding supplements at wholesale prices.BSN,Muscletech,Universal.
you can't go wrong with that stack bro....PM Needto for a discount on the great products!
I've been reading really good things about monsterdrol and 1-T stacks. i might just have to give that a whirl. What do you think?
brandonp005
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I've never tried 1-T but i can vouch that Monsterdrol is legit...If PP is pushing 1-T, you can bet your ass its legit bro...when i ran Monsterdrol and Cyclotren, 1-T wasn't out or I would have thrown it into the mix.
If I was you I would stack the two and also throw in some Xtreme Tren-XXL and give it a run. (The Xtreme Tren-XXL is the old Cyclotren if i'm not mistaken) Use Sustain Alpha from PP as your PCT and I'm sure you'll be satisfied bro.
PM Needto for discounts for BodyBuilding Supplements, Sports Nutrition and Sport Supplements Wholesale all at JustAddMuscle - Bodybuilding supplements at wholesale prices.BSN,Muscletech,Universal. and Primordial Performance
Thanks man, I may just have to go with this suggestion. I'll definetly log it too with pictures. Plan on running it real soon
brandonp005
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You won't be disappointed bro..make sure you log your progress bro....take before and after pics as well...you will think your not seeing anything and then all of a sudden you'll be like "damn" where did that shit come from.
Week 3 is magical bro!
whats your stats and cycle history so we can figure up a dosage bro?
Well I'm around 185 at 6'1", with right around 10-12%bf. Here is a recent picture: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/chat-conversation/update-melanotan-pic-598976.html
I have cycled test for 10 weeks along with dbol. i gained about 25lbs, but found it hard to hold onto the gains. i did a full pct as well. i have also run dbol only cycles for quick mass gains. Picture just coming off test cycle:
Supps I'm taking now are:
fish oil
flax oil
multi
b12
aspirin 31mg
BCAA's
creatine
glutamine
when/casien protein
melanotanII subq
10001110101
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dude stay away from monsterdrol. it's superdrol, it works really well but it's very liver toxic, horrible to your lipids, crushes libido & joints... and not to mention that the duration of your cycle you will be exhausted and bitchy.
shit will make you big, strong and well-defined, but at a cost. also causes rebound gyno in many. it builds up mass like dbol but with zero bloat. it seems like a great steroid, but it's just horrible, look up superdrol & liver damage on google, it's put quite a few people in the hospital.
i lasted 11 days on that shit it is not worth it every morning i woke up feeling like i drank a gallon of cheap red wine the night before, i'd rather run letro and clomid at the same time than take that (well maybe that's an exageration.
but seriously get your hands on some desoxymethyltestoterone (p-plex) it's in league with dbol and it's legal... libido boost, great strength and mass gains (about 80% as strong as superdrol by comparison) but gyno is a concern so have anti-e's, run it at dosages you would run dbol at (30-50mg/day) JAM has it under the brand phera-vol
havoc (epistane) is solid as well, put it right around somewhere between var and wisntrol, i'd run it at 40-60mg/day.
i dont konw about cyclotren, probably g2g.
shit will make you big, strong and well-defined, but at a cost. also causes rebound gyno in many. it builds up mass like dbol but with zero bloat. it seems like a great steroid, but it's just horrible, look up superdrol & liver damage on google, it's put quite a few people in the hospital.
i lasted 11 days on that shit it is not worth it every morning i woke up feeling like i drank a gallon of cheap red wine the night before, i'd rather run letro and clomid at the same time than take that (well maybe that's an exageration.
but seriously get your hands on some desoxymethyltestoterone (p-plex) it's in league with dbol and it's legal... libido boost, great strength and mass gains (about 80% as strong as superdrol by comparison) but gyno is a concern so have anti-e's, run it at dosages you would run dbol at (30-50mg/day) JAM has it under the brand phera-vol
havoc (epistane) is solid as well, put it right around somewhere between var and wisntrol, i'd run it at 40-60mg/day.
i dont konw about cyclotren, probably g2g.
brandonp005
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Yes its liver toxic, thats what the Cycle Support is for bro...I did notice a little lethargy but it deminished after a couple weeks...if your mentally strong and want it, you won't let the lethargy get you down. Everyone is different though, I cycled Monsterdrol/Cyclotren with great results and loved every second. Joint pain wasn't an issue with me and I have bad joints from 4 years of college baseball. As far as libido goes, it didn't effet mine in any way. Like I said, everyone reacts different to different drugs. You just have to simply give it a try, use a low dose to see how your body responds. I started @ 15mg/ED and went up to 20mg/ED at weeks 4-6.
Well, you had a bad experience with it.
I love it and didn't have anything to complain about. The only thing that happened to me was getting as strong as crap and putting on good mass.
needtogetaas
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http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...buffguys-stack-up-sponsors-thread-619558.html
Take a look at this thread for info on these products and what is in the, bro. Also on some other good shit out there. Like jam said there are some real steroids right now that are otc. Prob will not be otc for long but we might at well take advantage of it well they are.
Yup yup, I've been using that thread as one of a few references. Thee is some very good information in there. I appreciate your help bro.
needtogetaas
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Anytime man. There is a few other compounds that are pretty good right now too. Anytime you need help figuring them out give me a shout out. It gets easier the more you start to understand the molecular brake down of steroids. 19 is the magic number.
needtogetaas
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Now this is funny. Shit well you are at it look up (oral steroids and liver damage) on google too. GOD lmao...
Have the people getting the liver damage was when the stuff first came out. It was mass marketed by a well known lab and little 15 year olds where buying it by the truck loads. Megga dosing it and doing all the dumb shit kids that age do when using it. Drinking bear going out drinking all night and not doing anything right.
Joint pain???? well duh!!!! its a dht. Your going to get the same joint pain (if at all) that some would get from winny,var or most dht derivatives.
crushes libido??? Chemically I would like you to explain how superdrol would do this please? I am asking because I would really like to know?
rebound gyno in many??? hell I know a fe who have used it along with other compounds to cure gyno rebound. Not bring it on. How ever it is possible but the words (many?) I think we can take that out of there. Ya maybe if you did a shitting pct. That can happen with almost any aas.
mass like dbol but with zero bloat. MMMMMMMMMMMMM ya damn right it does
Run some good on cycle sups and a good pct. Drink plenty of water and happy growing. I myself advice to never go above 20mg ed of monsterdrol. You really do not need to go any higher to get good gains from it and going higher starts braking into more sides then the gains are worth.
Thank you
J
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As far as injectables go. I cant argue with you there. Its like comparing apples to oranges. Less liver toxic, stay in the system longer per dose all of that other stuff. As far as orals go,I have been in the bodybuilding scene for a good 12 years heavy now. I can tell you that I would put the over the counter anabolics today agains any of the illegal orals out there and can guarantee you that mg per mg none of them compare to Monsterdrol. As far as bulking agents none compare to P-plex either mg per mg.
yea i see how some guys be mixing 2 or 3 of these legal orals steriod and imo thats a good way to fuck up your liver ..as far as monderdrol, i havent used to but if its a superdrol clone .. i see the 1st wave of that hit a few years back before it got banned and it produced some great results for some ..had some badd side effects on other people ..p-plex im not very familiar with to be honest
J
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People got sides because they did not respect it. If taken at 20-40mgs per day with proper support supplements the gains can be unmatched by any illegal oral. P-plex gives very similar results to dbol with water gains except that like superdrol you would not need more than 40mg max per day for an advance aa user.
nice the p-plex sounds attractive
.. i might have to give it a run with test soon, so see 1st hand
J
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nice the p-plex sounds attractive
Once you try that you will never want to use dbol again for bulking bro. It was what all the pro ball players where using to get jacked and could not be detected back then. It was what they called Madol.
Except Barry, who was taking MIDOL. lololol
walliwalibus
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LMAO at DABUFFGUY.
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