Just Add Muscle said:Cyclotren and Havoc are not like Var or Tbol.Although on Cyclotren alone my strength has been retarded and it actually freaked me out on the bench a few days back.If you want tbol like results run H-drol.Superdrol will give you more strength hands down than all of them with the exception of maybe P-plex but can give rough sides to some.
You're right, they are not like var or tbol. That' kind of the point.
Var and tbol are mild in terms of strength and mass gains compared to other illegal AAS, and these "mild" compounds are way stronger than the PH's I'm on. Not even in the same ballpark. And dbol is 2 steps above tbol and var in terms of strength and mass. I haven't even tried halo or anadrol, so I can't comment there.
Some are saying that you can get as good results (or better) with PH's as you can with strong AAS like dbol and anadrol and that is just not seeming to add up.
PH do work, and give good gains, but they do not fit in the same category in terms of results as the illegal AAS. As far as my experience goes thus far. I will undoubtedly be giving m-drol (superdrol) and p-plex a run after I'm done and rested from this go.