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rottweiler75

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Does anyone know the reasons why deca helps the joints and winstrol makes joints feel terrible? I was on a winstrol only cycle like a year ago and i have been having trouble with a particular joint since. You hear alot of post saying deca helps the joints by adding extra water to the joint causing extra lubrication. If this was the case any AS that converted to estrogen or progesterone would have these benefits. You have progesterone levels, triggering prolactin levels in males causing erection problems, hence deca dick, fina dick, and gyno. I was wondering if these high levels of prolactin maybe can cause a increase of relaxin, To aid in joint mobility? and stanzol being a progesterone receptor agaisnt, having the oppostie effect?:fro:
 
rottweiler75 said:
If this was the case any AS that converted to estrogen or progesterone would have these benefits. You have progesterone levels, triggering prolactin levels in males causing erection problems, hence deca dick, fina dick, and gyno.

Theres alot of different kind of gear that could convert to estrogen but only one works great with joint probs. DECA or Nandrolone decanoate
 
Ya, thanks for the post but a simple answer wasnt what I was looking for. Maybe someone with a pharmacology background could help, the 2 replys were obvious. If u can understand the cause you can understand the effect. I get tired of hearing on As profiles from water retetion when the AS's that convert to estrogen would also have this effect.
 
Winstrol sucks the water out of your muscles and joints, hince that is why you look harder and more cut because there is no water bloat. Users who use Winny use it to get that "rock hard" look. Winny also increases your chance for injury because of that effect, muscles and ligaments are easier to tear, due to there is no lubrication/water contained within them. I know alot of guys who have torn pec and other muscles and ligaments, while running heavy winny cycles, and doing same type of exercises with more weights using other substances like test and deca.
Deca, lubs joints, because it forces your muscles to take in more protein, water and nitrogen.
Hope this answers your question?
 
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