Primo, Winny, Var Cycle

[glurk]

Can I get some feedback on this cycle?

I'm 220lbs, 31 Years Old, Have lifted for about 3 years off and on. This will be my second cycle, first one was deca only years ago. I'm a little overweight and have started a very high protein low carb low cal diet and plan on lifting 3 times a week and doing cardio 3 times a week with this cycle. My biggest question is will I lose fat and gain muscle on this cycle? I can get more Primo if I need it. I'm looking to lose 20lbs of fat and gain 10-15lbs of muscle.

Week 1-4 Primo 125mg twice a week, Var 30mg ED
Week 5 Primo 125mg twice a week, Var 30mg ED, Winny 25mg ED
Week 6-8 Primo 125mg twice a week, Winny 25mg ED

 

[big greg 82]

wks 1-8 Primo 300mg
wks 1-4 Var 30-40mg ED
wks 4-8 Winny 50-100mg ED
wks 1-8 Clen start off at 20mcg and go up to 120mcg, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off

eat right and do cardio and you will see nice results.....

 

[lowpro]

My biggest question is will I lose fat and gain muscle on this cycle?

No. To be honest, you'll make some gains; but you won't lose fat. You gotta be about the diet - diet -diet. I'm on the tail end of my cycle that looks like this:

week 1-10 - prop (100mg/EOD)
week 1-12 - primo (100mg/EOD) <--helps with the prop pain
week 1-6 - winny (80mg/ED)
week 6-12 var (80mg/ED)
week 1-12 dex (1mg/ED)

Clomid for PCT; with tapering down with primo and var the last 2 weeks (since they don't hinder natural test - as I read and researched)

I've become solid and my muscle gains have been nice. I dialed in my diet and lost 10lbs of body fat before I gained it back in SOLID muscle. I'm no expert as this was my 1st cycle, but my results and experience was a great one so far.

 

[AhMadKooL]

How much is your bf %? Before you start a cycle your bf should be below14-15%. Then you'll see much of the gains that you'll make. To reach that bf % Focus on your diet, rest and training.

 

[paridhm]

Bro, you can loose those pounds if your diet is on point, but it is very unlikely you will gain the lean mass. If you lift more than 3 times a week, your goals will be much easier to obtain. Remember that the more lean mass you have, the more calories you burn. That will be a great advantage for you in your quest. You'll need more lifting of weights to obtain that lean mass. I wish you the best though.

 

[Ramcononer]

Diet looses fat not the sauce my friend..The Diet forum has so many good people willing to help...

 

[abomb]

When/if you get your diet right, then you need to think about this:

1. Var or winny not both. Doubling up on 17aa orals is not very liver friendly.

2. Once you pick between Var and Winny, run it a minimum of 6 - maximum of 8 weeks.

3. 50 mgs Winny or 50 mgs of Var should be your dosage.

 

[lifthard2005]

wk 1-8 primo @ 1000mg/wk
wk 1-8 var @ 40mg ed
wk 3-8 winstrol @ 50mg ed

 

[TheRide]

Can I get some feedback on this cycle?

I'm 220lbs, 31 Years Old, Have lifted for about 3 years off and on. This will be my second cycle, first one was deca only years ago. I'm a little overweight and have started a very high protein low carb low cal diet and plan on lifting 3 times a week and doing cardio 3 times a week with this cycle. My biggest question is will I lose fat and gain muscle on this cycle? I can get more Primo if I need it. I'm looking to lose 20lbs of fat and gain 10-15lbs of muscle.

Week 1-4 Primo 125mg twice a week, Var 30mg ED
Week 5 Primo 125mg twice a week, Var 30mg ED, Winny 25mg ED
Week 6-8 Primo 125mg twice a week, Winny 25mg ED

For the goals that you listed I'm not that wild about your plan. You need to lean down BEFORE starting your cycle IMO. Drop 10-15 lbs first. Also, I feel that your doses may be on the lower end BUT if you are comfortable with them, by all means run it. IMO 250 mg of primo a week is a waste. Primo is a weaker AAS and most ppl will run it in excess of 500+mg/week. That is assuming of course you have legit primo (it is HIGHLY faked) As for winstrol, I have always run 50 EOD or 100 E2d. Many will tell you it works best by taking it ED becasue of the 1/2 life (about 9 hours) and I am inclined to beleive that statement. Given that Winstrol and Var are both liver toxic (17aa based) you may not want to stack them @ the same time. However since you cycle is 8 weeks it would be tough to split them up and allow a run long enough to fully benefit from it. When I ran Var and Winstrol I ran Var for weeks 1-8 and Wintrol 9-14.

Also, I do not think that your drug selection will yield 10-15 lbs of muscle in 8 weeks... That is a substantial amount of muscle to gain in a short amoutn of tmie w/a weaker AAS selection. If you want to stay in the 8 week range, and gain and optimal amoutn of muslce I would run test and NPP or test and tren.

Hope that helps!