Primo/Test P cycle times?

[nakedwarrior]

I am 26 years old, 12% b/f, excellent diet and shape.

I am on my 5th week of a Test P and Primobolan Depot Cycle that looks like this.

Testolic - 700 mgs a week
Primobolan Depot - 1050 mgs a week

Injecting EOD 300mgs of Primo and 200mgs of Testolic.

Question 1 - I was planning on doing the cycle for 10 weeks and starting PCT. Should I use the cycle for longer in your expert opinions? Some people say longer for Primo, but what about Testolic?

Question 2 - Also, I have Nolvadex and am using 10mgs a day, should I stop. I don't have any gyno. Doesn't it slow down your gains?

 

[nydj66]

10 weeks is short for Primo; 14-16 would be better. Test prop is normally used for shorter cycles but if you can stand the EOD injections, there's no problem running that 14-16 weeks as well. However, you would greatly benefit from using HCG with a cycle that long.

Nolvadex may theoretically hinder gains but I never noticed any difference. If you add HCG to your cycle that may increase your gyno risj so you may want to keep the nolva then.

 

[nakedwarrior]

Thanks, I have HCG but don't plan on using it till the end of my cycle. The balls shrinking is just a cosmetic thing from what I understand and HCG at the end will get them working again for PCT.

I'll stop the Nolva then and keep it on hand. I also have Arimidex and Femara just in case of gyno.

My PCT will be 3 weeks after my last primo shot and look like this.

Week 1 Nolvadex 20mgs/day HCG 500iu/day Aromasin 20mgs/day Vitamin E 1,000iu/day
Week 2 Nolvadex 20mgs/day HCG 500iu/day Aromasin 20mgs/day Vitamin E 1,000iu/day
Week 3 Nolvadex 20mgs/day HCG 500iu/day Aromasin 20mgs/day Vitamin E 1,000iu/day
Week 4 Nolvadex 20mgs/day Aromasin 20mgs/day
Week 5 Nolvadex 20mgs/day
Week 6 Nolvadex 20mgs/day

 

[nakedwarrior]

Anyone else think I should stay with 10 weeks or go to 15 for this cycle?

 

[thelocal]

i just gotta say dam 1050mgs of primo u beasting it out

 

[nydj66]

Thanks, I have HCG but don't plan on using it till the end of my cycle. The balls shrinking is just a cosmetic thing from what I understand and HCG at the end will get them working again for PCT.

I'll stop the Nolva then and keep it on hand. I also have Arimidex and Femara just in case of gyno.

My PCT will be 3 weeks after my last primo shot and look like this.

Week 1 Nolvadex 20mgs/day HCG 500iu/day Aromasin 20mgs/day Vitamin E 1,000iu/day
Week 2 Nolvadex 20mgs/day HCG 500iu/day Aromasin 20mgs/day Vitamin E 1,000iu/day
Week 3 Nolvadex 20mgs/day HCG 500iu/day Aromasin 20mgs/day Vitamin E 1,000iu/day
Week 4 Nolvadex 20mgs/day Aromasin 20mgs/day
Week 5 Nolvadex 20mgs/day
Week 6 Nolvadex 20mgs/day

I always had better luck with clomid for PCT than nolvadex.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

I say keep the nolva, imo..

like the cycle, agree on taking it longer..

 

[nakedwarrior]

Thanks, you guys agree I can take it for 15 weeks or should I go for 12? Is there more benefit to doing this cycle for a longer time like 12-15 weeks?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Thanks, you guys agree I can take it for 15 weeks or should I go for 12? Is there more benefit to doing this cycle for a longer time like 12-15 weeks?

At that dosage you might as well go 15 because you'll be shut down and need severe PCT. I'm not suggesting it, just sayin'.

I do not recommend nolva or clomid for PCT and it should not be needed during the cycle because that much primo would act as an anti e. Have some dex or a-san on hand just in case.

And a reminder -- primo needs protein, protein, protein. check out GEAR. It can help.

1750 mgs a LOT of oil. Let us know how it works out for you.

 

[brandonp005]

Geez thats a lot of Primo...must have took out a second mortgage on the house to get that shit! lol

Good luck to ya bro

 

[nakedwarrior]

Thanks guys for the information, I will stick with it for 15 weeks then. I will stop using the Nolva now. What do you recommend for PCT to get my levels back to normal again?

I was told, wait 3 weeks after my last shot of Primo and then do 40mgs of Nolva a week, 40mgs of Novla a week, 30 mgs of Nolva a week, and 20 mgs of Nolva a week; a total of 4 weeks.

Any better suggestions?

I have Arimidex, Femara, and Nolvadex on hand as well as HCG and Tribulus.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Thanks guys for the information, I will stick with it for 15 weeks then. I will stop using the Nolva now. What do you recommend for PCT to get my levels back to normal again?

I was told, wait 3 weeks after my last shot of Primo and then do 40mgs of Nolva a week, 40mgs of Novla a week, 30 mgs of Nolva a week, and 20 mgs of Nolva a week; a total of 4 weeks.

Any better suggestions?

I have Arimidex, Femara, and Nolvadex on hand as well as HCG and Tribulus.

Don't use any of it unless you get gyno which would be extremely unlikely.

For PCT, use HCG, UNLEASHED< POST CYCLE , adex and Sustain. For the importance of protein with Primo, read this: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...scle-gains-plus-primo-cycle-myths-673985.html

Kinda make Primo and GEAR a mattch made in heaven.

 

[nakedwarrior]

I forgot to mention I am also doing 20 i.u. a day of HGH Norditropin on a 5/2 schedule. Do you all think 20 i.u. a day is to much and will cause more damage?

 

[brandonp005]

I forgot to mention I am also doing 20 i.u. a day of HGH Norditropin on a 5/2 schedule. Do you all think 20 i.u. a day is to much and will cause more damage?

Damn bro, you must be a beast all those dosages of test/primo/hgh

 

[nakedwarrior]

I am getting there, I have a before and will take an after picture to show the difference when done. Is 20 i.u. a day of hgh to much? Will that hurt me if I can handle the sides like hands numb, etc?

 

[sweed]

20 iu's ed!? wow, you get enlarged gut yet? most amateur guys use is like 10, and 2-4 for most people I have seen.
what's your stats btw?? height, weight, bf% etc

*edit- you're only 26 and taking hgh?? why?

 

[nakedwarrior]

6"0" 218 lbs. 11% b/f, arms are 18.5 inches, waist is around 32 inches.