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would primo only at 500mg a week be effective for a tenth cycle?
Was thinking as primo has been good before for gains with no sides. Its either that or running test prop but bp flies up
 
MASSIVEMONSTER said:
would primo only at 500mg a week be effective for a tenth cycle?
Was thinking as primo has been good before for gains with no sides. Its either that or running test prop but bp flies up
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:elephant: :destroy:
 
MASSIVEMONSTER said:
would primo only at 500mg a week be effective for a tenth cycle?
Was thinking as primo has been good before for gains with no sides. Its either that or running test prop but bp flies up
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500mg/wk of primo is too little see any gains, especially for someone who's done 10 cycles: for vascularity, hardness, "leaning out" you should go 800mg - 1G/week. You'll be disappointed with anything less. And get some Proviron so you don't shutdown. Either that or Test and prov.
 
25homes said:
Would be ok if it is legit...but with 10 cycle under your belt dont expect much out of just primo....To me primo is a brdgeing compound
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What about with just a single cycle under your belt. Primo a better option?

179.5 lbs
6'
Lean
 
i ran primo only (700mg/w) and had great results. made moderate size gains and kept 10lbs easy. no sides and no pct. good times.
 
narshh said:
What about with just a single cycle under your belt. Primo a better option?

179.5 lbs
6'
Lean
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Not IMO I dont think I would waste my money on primo for any cycle!!!use test bro and grow big quick
 
narshh said:
What about with just a single cycle under your belt. Primo a better option?

179.5 lbs
6'
Lean
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Try eating, bro. I know guys that are 5'10-5'11 at 185lbs and I wouldn't recommend them to AAS until they hit 190-195lbs naturally.

I got out of the military over a year ago at 6'1, 175lbs.....and now in about a year and a half, I am 6'1, 225lbs....12-13%BF. The only thing I was on, was protein and a multi-vitamin, bro.

EAT!
 
MASSIVEMONSTER said:
yeah fuck the primo. ill stick with test.
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Not the attitude taken by past pro's like arnold .. one of his favorite reported cycles was primo and d-bol ...

I find primo @ 800 to 1000 mg a week stacked with var at 50mg ED to be a great combination if your not looking to blow up like a ballon in 3 weeks and then deflate again .... 95% of all my past gains on primo have been kept , contrary to popular belief primo is not a weak steriod you just don't bloat like a pig on it , so , some think it produces less results which is total bullshit.

Personaly i favour keeping my forward progress instead of riding the rollercoast up and down over and over again .. If this is your tenth cycle then what was your starting weight and what are you at now ?

I've only done 5 good solid runs , the first @ 180lbs and today i sit at 230lbs with the same or less BF then at 180 ... i've been as high as 254lbs but felt like an unathletic bag of shit that could'nt catch a 4 year old kid if i tryed ,considering i'm olny 5' 10" .....

I've yet to try tren ... once my research is complete , that will be my next kick at the cat
 
I am dieting down but am about 212 off gear at 5`8 now. Got up to 225 last cycle at 12.8% so its ok. Before gear I was 185 ish so 30-35lb gained over 9 cycles, not too great but i used to run pathetic pct`s which has now been fixed.
Maybe ill run some test and primo for 14 weeks over the summer.
 
MASSIVEMONSTER said:
I am dieting down but am about 212 off gear at 5`8 now. Got up to 225 last cycle at 12.8% so its ok. Before gear I was 185 ish so 30-35lb gained over 9 cycles, not too great but i used to run pathetic pct`s which has now been fixed.
Maybe ill run some test and primo for 14 weeks over the summer.
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Like everyone else your learning the importance or proper PCT thats a huge step .....

Once you figure out how to keep your gains post cycle ..... life is good :)
 
I am not flaming.. Or looking to get flamed - But I am wondering - How many of you who say "Fuck Primo" have actually used primo? If so, was it legit? If you are sure it was Legit, how much did you take? I ask this because 10 weeks of Primo at a gram a week using Schering would cost a boat load.

I have a lot of primo, and it will be lab tested next week to make sure it is legit and is dosed properly. If so, I will run 10 weeks at a gram a week with Proviron daily. I will post true results up.

If money is not a consideration, and don't want any sides, and easy recovery - Then Primo sounds like a good choice. I have used Test, Deca, Tren, EQ, NPP, Winny, T-Bol, and D-Bol in the past. So I have a good basis for comparison when I run the Primo.
 
MASSIVEMONSTER said:
would primo only at 500mg a week be effective for a tenth cycle?
Was thinking as primo has been good before for gains with no sides. Its either that or running test prop but bp flies up
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500mgs Primo/week
1 roll of duct tape

Inject the primo 1-2x/week
Have a friend tape your hands to your head, then have them take your keyboard and smash it to pieces.

GREAT CYCLE
 
itlnstln said:
500mgs Primo/week
1 roll of duct tape

Inject the primo 1-2x/week
Have a friend tape your hands to your head, then have them take your keyboard and smash it to pieces.

GREAT CYCLE
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hahaha. I swear, every day theres at least one post by you that cracks me the fuck up. :p

one big phat +1 K comin at ya, lol.
 
I will be very interested in reading about your results sheep (both lab results and gains). I have been off AAS for 5 years (Im 31) and am considering 8 weeks of primo at 500 mg/week with 375 mg/wk of Test. I'm trying to balance the best of both worlds in terms of sides and gains.
 
Alcatraz1662 said:
Try eating, bro. I know guys that are 5'10-5'11 at 185lbs and I wouldn't recommend them to AAS until they hit 190-195lbs naturally.

I got out of the military over a year ago at 6'1, 175lbs.....and now in about a year and a half, I am 6'1, 225lbs....12-13%BF. The only thing I was on, was protein and a multi-vitamin, bro.

EAT!
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My thing is that I am not into gaining fat. Of course who is, right? I am very lean. Never tested body fat but I have very little. But if I increase calories to 4500 per day. It does not matter how clean I eat, I add body fat. And let me tell you, I eat VERY clean and have for years. I have tried 4000 pd also but 3000 per day seems to be my limit to stay lean. I have substituted protein supplements, changed the order in which the foods were taken in, insuring not even complex carbs late but I still get back to gains = some fat. I run 5 days and occasionally 6 days a week. Hit the gym 5 days NEVER 6 days a week.

Last year I did cyp and eq and kept nearly 5 pounds from it so I am looking to make another 5-10 pound jump if I can while staying lean. I am just trying to determine the best way to get there for me.

I understand more than some but of course not all what dietary discipline can do but man, I am just not getting there on my own. More dedication than I give to this effort is rare in the outside world. Maybe not here with all of the Guru’s and potential "wannabe" guru's but rare elsewhere.

I waited 10 years before my first cycle and while I have only been this disciplined for the last 4 I think that my only way outside of AS is to get fat. Not fat by many people’s standards but fat by my own. This is not an acceptable solution for me.

I am not saying that without AS I can not go on. I am merely saying I am now looking for a little help to stay motivated and maybe even be a little more motivated if that is possible.

I do respect the opinion on those who say "GET bigger before" but at the same time, I am the only one who can see it clearly from my perspective and I think that choosing the right gear is the next logical step in my progression.

I do value your opinion and thanks again for the input.
 
deezknuckles said:
I will be very interested in reading about your results sheep (both lab results and gains). I have been off AAS for 5 years (Im 31) and am considering 8 weeks of primo at 500 mg/week with 375 mg/wk of Test. I'm trying to balance the best of both worlds in terms of sides and gains.
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Are these effective at doses as low as 200 per week each?
 
Black sheep is totaly correct .... The last primo cycle i ran was the most expensive to date

But ... Post cycle gain retention was also the highest so to all those that say it cost to much for what you get ..

Personaly i thought it was money well spent .... some may say different , but it's all about what works for you :)
 
If you do 10 weeks of primo at 800 - 1000mg ew...you are gonna get results. If you add 6 or 7 weeks of var in there; it will be even better. Bottom Line.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Look what 1g/week did for snatchboogie..Absolutely nothing! Theres your answer.. :p
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lol snatch yeah it best to run with var and gh even some prop mabey

800 mg primo
40-50 mg var
and gh to your prefrence..i got alot of bro's on that cycle right now in fact at one board i frequent i think the wholr damn board is on it lol

ppl
 
immortalis said:
hahaha. I swear, every day theres at least one post by you that cracks me the fuck up. :p

one big phat +1 K comin at ya, lol.
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It's all in good humor....................

He's a real TRIP though, isn't he? LOL
 
itlnstln said:
500mgs Primo/week
1 roll of duct tape


Inject the primo 1-2x/week
Have a friend tape your hands to your head, then have them take your keyboard and smash it to pieces.

GREAT CYCLE
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holy shit !! almost fell off chair!!!!!!! lol
 
MASSIVEMONSTER said:
would primo only at 500mg a week be effective for a tenth cycle?
Was thinking as primo has been good before for gains with no sides. Its either that or running test prop but bp flies up
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You can get the same results with 200mgs of test. If you're going to do primo, make sure you mix it with test.
 
amstel100 said:
Primo is Over-Rated!
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You can't just leave it at that ....

Not everyone responds the same to every compound , for instance my training partner can do winny till the cows come home and he might as well pop a few asprins instead of wasting the money on winny as it has zero effect on him

Dan Duchaine suggested some people have stanozolol receptors and others do not , hence some grow on the stuff and some do not ...

Winny is much the same as primo as the gains are slow but you do not shrink much when you stop the product ... for me ... i grow on primo and on winny

My friend does well on EQ and deca but cannot tolorate d-ball or oxy at all .. yet var puts him in a record class interms of strength .

Making a bold statement like one substance is overrated is just your personal veiw and does not atest to any factual bases relateing to gains seen by others ..

I can't preach enough the fact that chemical enhancement is all about finding what works best for you " but " if one substance does not work for you does'nt mean it will not work for someone else .
 
Mr.X said:
You can get the same results with 200mgs of test. If you're going to do primo, make sure you mix it with test.
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That's what "I" was getting at "X" - you just "worded" it differently
 
Mr.X said:
lol @ " " :p
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it's my "way" of talking with my "hands"........................
 
TexasBB said:
i ran primo only (700mg/w) and had great results. made moderate size gains and kept 10lbs easy. no sides and no pct. good times.
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no shutdown/libido suppression at all?
 
boxerjake said:
Black sheep is totaly correct .... The last primo cycle i ran was the most expensive to date

But ... Post cycle gain retention was also the highest so to all those that say it cost to much for what you get ..

Personaly i thought it was money well spent .... some may say different , but it's all about what works for you :)
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I agree. Primo is extremely expensive (if you are just a consumer like me). But Schering's version is human grade and is an outstanding drug. The least amount of sides for an anabolic drug IMO. I'm on about 800mg - G/week primo right now and its a very moderate gain. But let me tell you I feel fantastic. I've gained approx 8 lbs and I'm 6 weeks in and doing a 10 weeker. But every single gram of that gain has been completely lean and super vascular. I'm at 6% bf. Just tested BF yesterday. But again its very slow gain. Patience is the name of the game with Primo. A strict diet and good training regimen and the gains will come. Someone on Test may blow up faster so its a bit annoying at first to watch others grow so quick but when the cycles are over and PCT is run, see who has the most keepable gains, less sides and super vascular ripped up look. Plus I prefer the more leaned out body than the bulky packed freakish muscle that some would rather have. Its all individualistic.

For the record. As Mr.X stated, Test with Primo is even better. Plus your less likely to shut down, probably not at all. Primo, Test, Var (or Prov) is a nice stack as well.

I would not recommend running Primo (or EQ)-only as a first cycle, 2nd or 3rd cycle unless I was stacking with a shit load of Test. You won't be happy with the gains using Primo-only or as the base of your cyc. Build a solid foundation first ....just my 2 cents as a Primo user.
 
jumpshot said:
no shutdown/libido suppression at all?
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yea and I should mention that primo-only will shut you down and may cause some libido suppression! Did for me about 5 weeks in and I had to add some Sus.
 
Yes, PRIMOTESTON @ 500mg per week will be okay. You might want to add an AI to keep estrogen down, especially the older you are. This will also help control BP as well, if estrogen related.

BMJ
 
iHulk said:
For the record. As Mr.X stated, Test with Primo is even better. Plus your less likely to shut down, probably not at all. Primo, Test, Var (or Prov) is a nice stack as well.

I would not recommend running Primo (or EQ)-only as a first cycle, 2nd or 3rd cycle unless I was stacking with a shit load of Test. You won't be happy with the gains using Primo-only or as the base of your cyc. Build a solid foundation first ....just my 2 cents as a Primo user.
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The more I read the more I seem to change my mind but I am thinking of running 200mg test with 200mg primo per week.

Like I said earlier in the thread I am 179.5 6'1 lean and looking to stay that way. Was going to go with test and eq but primo without the high bp problem sounds better to me. I had a water problem on my first test (cyp) cycle that would not have been noticed by most but I noticed it so I thought of maybe switching to prop with primo at the 200mg dose. What I am of course looking for is keepable gains while not adding fat. Do these doses sound reasonable for light gains at my body weight?
 
From extended personal experience, Primo is an excellent drug. People don't like it because you won't blow up like you will with the tests. I prefer solid gains over weight gains. For this Primo is tops.
 
narshh said:
The more I read the more I seem to change my mind but I am thinking of running 200mg test with 200mg primo per week.

Like I said earlier in the thread I am 179.5 6'1 lean and looking to stay that way. Was going to go with test and eq but primo without the high bp problem sounds better to me. I had a water problem on my first test (cyp) cycle that would not have been noticed by most but I noticed it so I thought of maybe switching to prop with primo at the 200mg dose. What I am of course looking for is keepable gains while not adding fat. Do these doses sound reasonable for light gains at my body weight?
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Primo @ 200mgs/week is a complete waste
 
amstel100 said:
Primo @ 200mgs/week is a complete waste
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Agreed. why not do something like this if you are worried about water retention?

Test- 250mg/wk
Primo- 500mg/wk
A-dex .5/day

Then run a normal pct
 
informed09 said:
Agreed. why not do something like this if you are worried about water retention?

Test- 250mg/wk
Primo- 500mg/wk
A-dex .5/day

Then run a normal pct
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Which test would you run? Cyp or prop? Is the a-dex really that effective at removing water?
 
narshh said:
Which test would you run? Cyp or prop? Is the a-dex really that effective at removing water?
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Yes it is. If you think there is to much water retentio then bump the A-dex up a bit. I wouldnt do prop just b/c the ed or eod injections. I would do Test E but if you are down with ed or eod injections go for the prop. As far as many are concerned test is test as lon as you take an AI(a-dex) with it.
 
First cycle, looking to take primo 500mg a week-- good cycle? any advice? and would like some info on a good PCT
 
vasman said:
First cycle, looking to take primo 500mg a week-- good cycle? any advice? and would like some info on a good PCT
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My first response would be positively NO! Do not waste your hard earned money and time using Primo only as a 1st cycle.

1) What are your goals?
2) Age/weight/height
3) Diet and nutrition plan?
 
I usaully stay away from thread dealing with dosages but for this one I ma inclined to chime in. Primo at a gram a week I think for most people is a waste of primo. Dosages should be determined by the individual, starting with a lower dose and increasing based on results if needed. As an example, if I had posted my last cycle I would have been flamed and looked at as and idiot that doesn't know what hes doing even though I've been in this game for almost 20 years. At the risk of looking like and idiot my last cycle was 300mg primo PW (8 weeks)with 40mg of var (weeks 1-5). My goal was to cut up a little, I was running a calorie deficit (2700 cal PD). I lost 11mm on abdominal skin fold, gained 10lbs of bodyweight and my strength still had a fairly substantila increase. This is my 3rd cycle that included primo. I may be an idiot in the eys of some but it works for me :-)
 
bilter said:
I usaully stay away from thread dealing with dosages but for this one I ma inclined to chime in. Primo at a gram a week I think for most people is a waste of primo. Dosages should be determined by the individual, starting with a lower dose and increasing based on results if needed. As an example, if I had posted my last cycle I would have been flamed and looked at as and idiot that doesn't know what hes doing even though I've been in this game for almost 20 years. At the risk of looking like and idiot my last cycle was 300mg primo PW (8 weeks)with 40mg of var (weeks 1-5). My goal was to cut up a little, I was running a calorie deficit (2700 cal PD). I lost 11mm on abdominal skin fold, gained 10lbs of bodyweight and my strength still had a fairly substantila increase. This is my 3rd cycle that included primo. I may be an idiot in the eys of some but it works for me :-)
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Just shows you dont need much gear to grow.
I gain well on 600-700mg a week max.
My mate is on his first cycle and even though he eats badly has gained 11lb in 5 weeks on 250mg sust a week only!
 
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