Pre-exhaustion techniques...valid or useless for hypertrophy?

[InTraining]

Anyone used these successfully to gain some mass after hitting a plateau or wanting a change?

I'm thinking these might be helpful on more stubborn muscle groups...

 

[SlavikHavik]

Anyone used these successfully to gain some mass after hitting a plateau or wanting a change?

I'm thinking these might be helpful on more stubborn muscle groups...

Id say there essentially useless.

testosterone.net has a huge number of great and effective ideas if you want a change.

 

[casualbb]

Pretty useless

 

[BOOEY]

Like doing flyes before hitting bench press? Yeah, I don't see the logic behind it. Supersets/dropsets/giant sets work very well on breaking plateaus. Someone suggested to me the other day to try Squats-Leg Press-Leg Extension with less than 10 sec rest in between ....................... let's just say my legs have been abnormally sore for the past few days

 

[psychedout]

Wow -- I actually agree with you guys on this one.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Soreness doesn't mean anything...

 

[psychedout]

Soreness doesn't mean anything...

LoL. There is no way I am highjacking this thread.

 

[d3track]

pre exhaustion seems to work better as a warmup

 

[AAP]

Actually, I think you are all wrong. It certainly has helped me. I am now starting most chest workouts with cable crossovers.

Anything that makes your target muscle contract the hardest with the least assistance from other muscle groups is going to benefit you.

 

[d3track]

Actually, I think you are all wrong. It certainly has helped me. I am now starting most chest workouts with cable crossovers.

Anything that makes your target muscle contract the hardest with the least assistance from other muscle groups is going to benefit you.

i kinda look at that as a warm up
have good bloodflow in the target area before the big compound movements
and i do do that

chest= fyes then inclines
quads= extensions then squats
back= pulldowns then deads/bb rows
delts= bent laterals then overheads

 

[SoreArms]

i kinda look at that as a warm up
have good bloodflow in the target area before the big compound movements
and i do do that

wouldn't a warm up set at about 70% or so do the same?

 

[d3track]

wouldn't a warm up set at about 70% or so do the same?

i woulda thought so
but when i started doing this i had much better workouts
probably just something that gets me locked in, dont know if it would work for others, but i have had much better workouts since i started doing it

 

[BOOEY]

Soreness doesn't mean anything...

Sure it does

 

[psychedout]

Sure it does

I agree. Lets bust out the

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Soreness isn't an indicator for growth of workout efficacy.

 

[AAP]

i kinda look at that as a warm up

It is only a warm up if you make it to be.

Stop viewing it that way, make it count, all or nothing, and it can help. Besides if I am going to warm up for a pressing movement like presses or squats, then I am going to warm up WITH a pressing movement.

 

[anthrax]

I think it helps..... psychologically

Let's say you're supposed to bench press 200lb doing it as first exercise

But instead of doing it as first exercise you pre-exhaust your chest with flies
Then when doing bench press you still want to lift 200 lb

 

[d3track]

It is only a warm up if you make it to be.

Stop viewing it that way, make it count, all or nothing, and it can help. Besides if I am going to warm up for a pressing movement like presses or squats, then I am going to warm up WITH a pressing movement.

i think it may be mental for me
take chest for me
start with flyes, 40#/60#/80#/100#- that last set is definatly all out
with that i am solidly focussed for incline presses
for whatever reason i have been stronger in the pressing when i use a pre-exhaust/warmup

maybe i am just thinking of it wrong.....

in either way it has worked well for me

 

[EL GAUCHO]

How can you say it won't induce hypertrophy: its a different stimulus which will result in growth.
Done properly, it is very effective IMO. I use them every now and then: especially on days I want to burn it up baby!