powders to orals

[JKerry]

let's say someone were to have a gram of oxandrolone powder. could he just put it in a 20 ml solution of (fill in the blank) and take one ml of this liquid product (50mg) like one would take an oral??? i'm not sure what would be a stable solution, but is this as easy as it sounds?

jkerry

 

[UpstateMuscle]

Close But not quite

That tecnique works great with most orals (winny, dbol) using a 1:1 mixture of pH20 and Ethanol. However, oxandrolone is different. Different How? It rapidly decomposes to a different molecule that is worthless when solvated in water. This is what i have read. Another nonpolar solvent however might work. The only problem is that with most really good nonpolar solvents are also lethal (carbon tet, chloroform, toluene, benzene etc). A vegetable oil or gycerol might work, however I'm not gonna suggest that anyone try it with gear they payed money for, cause I have no idea if it will work . My advice to you is to go to the library and get yer hands on the Merck. I'll take a look for you tommorow if I happen to be there, maybe I can learn something.

I have a related question and maybe someone reading this thread will know the answer. If oxandrolone is no good when solvated in water, then how in the hell can it ever work. We are aq. Therefore wouldnt it become useless as soon as it hits our stomach. This is the one part of the whole "you cant dissolve in in H20" thing that has always bothered me

Good luck bro and If I find something out I'll let you know.

 

[DeepZenPill]

People claim to have success with propylene glycol. When I used var powder the first time, I just mixed it in olive oil (i forget the exact amounts right now) and shook it furiously each time before taking my dose. I'm sure there was a certain margin of error, but I still had great results. I just cap my oral powders now though. Much more convenient.

 

[Lift Chief]

The method i have heard is to mix the var powder with bacardi 151 in whatever ratio you choose. If you then heat the solution it should dissolve. This is what i've heard.

 

[JKerry]

It rapidly decomposes to a different molecule that is worthless when solvated in water. This is what i have read. Another nonpolar solvent however might work.

i figured this was the case. i remember some liquid creatine a while back that contained more decomposed creatinine than creatine. non polar solvent... glycerol, but it's pretty darn thick... would probably have to cut it with something.

I just cap my oral powders now though. Much more convenient.

wouldn't this require a very accurate and probably expensive scale???

thanks guys... i'm definately not planning on doing anything along these lines anytime soon. this was just an idea that came along after becoming aquainted with so many "research" items now. and, it'd be the only way i could afford var in the near future.

thanks guys,
jkerry

 

[DeepZenPill]

wouldn't this require a very accurate and probably expensive scale???

Well it depends. If you want extremely accurate dosages, you would have to weigh each one out... but that's not really realistic.

Here's an excerpt from a post by Andy13 on capping powders:

You might find this to be useful...

I know there's "bulk powder" around.. AAS taken orally are better if split-up throughout the day.. But how do you measure out 10mg into caps with your 0.1g scale? You can dissolve it in liquid and measure out fractions of a ml.. But that's not too convenient when you need to take it on the run. Here's my way to make 10mg-20mg-50mg- or whatever size capsules with your quick-e capsule maker.. And a common, 0.1g scale.


Example--- 50mg caps..

First off, throw a nickle onto your scale.. If it does not read "5.0g" than your measurements will be off by about this much... So long as you don't try and measure something WAY over 5g, you will be straight..

Now, throw a little, plastic tupperwear dish on the scale and tare it. Take 100 of your empty caps (the more caps you weigh, the more accurate your estimation of "one empty cap" will be) and weigh them on your zeroed scale. Lets say that 100caps weighs 10g. Each cap then weighs 0.1g (100mg).

Fill about 10 or so caps with cornstarch. (I'm assuming your scale measures to 0.1g). Weigh them. Lets say 10 caps full of cornstarch weighs 5.0g. So each cap weighs 500mg. Subtracting the weight of the capsule (in this hypothetical situation, 0.1g) and get 400mg of starch.

So, 0.4g times 50 caps comes out to 20g cornstarch per 50 caps. (it may be more/less than this.. this is just an example)

Next, 2.5g of the AAS powder is weighed out and mixed WELL with 20g of cornstarch. Fill the caps. Some will be left over. Weigh this out. It is one part AAS, 8 parts corn starch. If it weighs 2.5 grams (for instance), there's 0.28g AAS in there. 2.5g (the AAS you measured out) minus 0.28g left over divided by the # of caps means that you ended up with 44mg caps..

This can easily be adjusted to make any size caps.

Andy

Here's a link to the whole thread: http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=140774

 

[jh1]

Why not just cap it?