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potential virgin user with some heavy ammo

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You know that's actually not too far from the case here. I have 100 tabs of anadrol, 25 tabs of Winstrol at 50mg, and 30 tabs of Nolvadex at 20mg. I only have these because they were made available to me. I wouldn't even know where to find them (at least not from a legitimate source). I guess you are right in saying that I should have just come out in the begining and said "This is what I have, please advise on the safest way to administer." And by the way Acela....I picked up a 300-tab bottle of milk thistle after I got off from work today.


do your body a favour, and throw the fuckers in the bin.., It's them or your , liver, and you dont go far without a liver.

Basically if you want to look like a fat cunt for 100 days, then look like a skinny bastard again, with a fucked liver afterwards, go right ahead. Otherwise dump the anardrols.
 
i did an abomb only cycle and a test e only cycle, i feel better with the e and i am making better solid gains from the e, abombs are too unhealthy as far as sides from e i get more negative sides from creatine, acne, etc
 
its not that the liver is going to fail here guys. 10 weeks of 17 aa's wont kill you. they will really hit the cholesterol hard. the cycle is plain stupid as there is no reason to run these 2 drugs as planned here. the nolvadex will not prevent gyno here because anadrol has nothing to do with estrogen but in fact raises progesterone levels. the only way to combat that is with bromo/cabaser/dostinex.

its simply a bad cycle. you will ballon up in weight (all water from the anadrol), strength will go through the roof, and then when the anadrol stops and the winstrol starts, the body weight and gym weight will crash right back down and the winstrol will not help that at all. this is a classic roller coaster of hormone levels and will result in crap.

but everyone who knows what they are talking about has been ignored and i expect nothing else.

and for the "hulk" friend, if he is seriously prescribing this cycle he is clueless. his size and strength are pointless as he is completely in the dark about what these drugs are used for. i know a ton of meatheads who will take anything they can get their hands on. i wouldnt buy shit from them since odds are it could be fake (because they are clueless) and i wouldnt take 1 piece of advice from them as their actions speak louder than words.
 
100mgs a day is extremely liver toxic.
As for the original poster, why are you asking advice and then presenting a hypothetical situation which constitutes ignoring the advice? Listen to what's being told or shut up and just do what you want.[/QUOTE]

Damn Nelson.... you are straight forward !!! That post is the BEST advice anyone could ever give.
If someone asks for advice..then continues to do what they want; then they deserve the consequences that go along with not following advice.. My old-timer dad always said..''Listen to wisdom son'' He''s 65' I'm 41. I still listen and heed others 'WISDOM'
 
kyoshi6 said:
100mgs a day is extremely liver toxic.
As for the original poster, why are you asking advice and then presenting a hypothetical situation which constitutes ignoring the advice? Listen to what's being told or shut up and just do what you want.

they have aids patients on anadrol for high doses for much longer than 5 weeks. liver toxicity is WAY overexaggerated but still possible for those who are genetically inclined for problems. if your liver is healthy and you have no hidden health issues, your not going to go into liver failure over 5 weeks at 100mgs. im watching a guy who is a few weeks out from going for his pro card right now and hes on 100mg anadrol and Halotestin - fluoxymesterone - (not sure the dosage) and winstrol (100mg). is it bad, yea, but lets no go overboard. people on here who dont compete have hit anadrol for 100 and 150mg a day for weeks and they are still with us.
 
I ignorantly took anadrol when I was 19, having no clue WTF if was, being a total noob. It fucked me up. Years later when I was 26, I took the advice from this board and started out with sust 500 for 10 weeks. Was a good first cycle and that is what you should do. I think you probably just want this to work so bad because you have the shit in hand and don't want to go through the process of getting the right stuff and having to wait. You have your mind set. But trust us all, don't do abombs your first cycle.
 
Snarling Force said:
I think you probably just want this to work so bad because you have the shit in hand and don't want to go through the process of getting the right stuff and having to wait. You have your mind set.
You're pretty much right on. Anadrol, Nolvadex, and Winstrol are what I have, and I am not the kind of person who will go out and seek steroids. Basically this is what is available to me, and if the net result is going to be a positive addition in muscle mass, then I want to make it work. I do not plan on doing any more cycles after these two.

I want to make clear that for all of you who felt like I was simply blowing off the overwhelming (actually, unanimous) opinions given here, that is not the case at all. When I came to this board I was 100% committed to kickstart an anadrol cycle. After reading all of your negative feedback, that dropped to less than a 50% probability. I actually went back to my buddy and told him that I was having major reservations about going through with this. There were a few reasons that I ended up deciding to do them anyway:

1) The thing that I heard more than anything was the danger to my liver. I visted mesage board after message board on this topic and pretty much all of the actual research shows that anadrol doesn't pose a serious threat to your liver on a cycle this short (5-6 weeks). Especially not at 50mg per day for the majority of the cycle. The link that I posted a few days ago on this very thread stated that studies have shown that you can do at 100mg per day for up to 12 weeks without any serious issues. So I was really beginning to think that a lot of the people hammering on the liver issue were basing it more off of legend rather than personal experience.

2) I didn't feel like I was getting nearly the feedback that I wanted from people who have actualy used anadrol. Yes, I know that 1 or 2 people said that they had used it, but on other sites like this I read from numerous anadrol users and the majority of them had positive experiences and claimed to keep the majority of their gains.

3) I know that none of you are impressed with the advice that my buddy has given to me, but we have known each other since we were in 9th grade (we're in our early 30s now). He isn't trying to make a quick buck, he isn't giving me any fake stuff, and he most definitely wouldn't try to sell me on something that he claims worked wonders for him. Now he agrees with all of you that 10 weeks of sustanon is the way to go for a first cycle, but he VOWS that I will not be disappointed with the end result of these 2 cycles. He said that as long as I keep the protein between 300-400 grams per day at the conclusion of these cycles that I should retain the majority of my gains. He estimates that would be between 25-30 pounds of quality muscle.

I know that at this point you guys are probably so sick of hammering me that you're likely done even responding to what I say. Let me just say that I truly do appreciate all of the advice that each of you provided. It did not fall on deaf ears. Hyp 1..I will definitely keep a close watch on my eye coloring. Acela...thankks for the tip on the milk thistle. To everyone else...don't be offended because I am not taking your advice. My intent on coming here was never to do what the majority recommended...it was simply to take the information and use it to help me make a final decision along with everything else that I have researched. You are all most definitely providing an outstanding service.
 
ok bro,you've made your decision......and further talking won't change your mind.

just remember when you're having the overall ran down feeling IT'S SPECIFICALLY CAUSED BY THE GODDAMNED ANADROL,AND THE TAXING EFFECTS IT HAS ON YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM.when you cyle off of those orals you're going to shrink up and resemble a fucking california raisin because of estrogen overload and shut down testosterone production.I would lay money on it you and your 'friend' doesn't even have a fucking post cycle therapy planned for you and your recovery which in essence is as important to the gear itself as far as keeping any gains at all.

do what you must,and learn the hard fucking way.but when you lose every goddamned ounce of muscle you gain don't come back to these forums crying ......because I'm going to straight up tell you WE FUCKING TOLD YOU SO
 
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hyp1 said:
when you cyle off of those orals you're going to shrink up and resemble a fucking california raisin because of estrogen overload and shut down testosterone production.I would lay money on it you and your 'friend' doesn't even have a fucking post cycle therapy planned for you and your recovery which in essence is as important to the gear itself as far as keeping any gains at all.
What about my Nolvadex for PCT? Isn't that supposed to block estrogen while simultaneously bringing test levels back up? I have read several places that this is a very effective post-cycle remedy for anadrol.

hyp1 said:
do what you must,and learn the hard fucking way.but when you lose every goddamned ounce of muscle you gain don't come back to these forums crying ......because I'm going to straight up tell you WE FUCKING TOLD YOU SO
I know you will hyp1, and if what all of you have said turns out to be true then I'll deserve every bit of it. I am going to take some before and after shots as well as some more pics 2-3 months later.

Let me ask one other question. Do you feel that I would have better (I know that you think both cycles are shit) results if I just took the Winstrol for now?
 
ur right i never used anadrol and never will .. if u insisted on an oral first cycle and wanted to pack on size 1 test &dbol cycle would have been so much better ..then those 2 cycles combine
 
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