POST CYCLE UPDATE!!!!!!! next cycle-??

[Testosterone Spike]

First off, I want to thank everyone who has given me any advice on this board, along with everyone who posts any comments at all. It is through your input that I give credit for my success.

Finally, after 10 long, hard weeks of training on my first cycle I am happy to report that I have gained 23 pounds. My bench is up just under 1 whole plate. I have just started my clomid therapy, so I will hopefully keep most of my gains. I also just started a cycle of creatine to help keep my gains and even keep gaining.
My cycle consisted of DECA and SUST. Throughout the cycle I felt increase aggression, intensity, strength, and endurance; not to mention self confidence. Never before have I been so confident and successful with my interactions with women. Other aspects of my life have also been affected. I feel more focused, determined, and motivated to succeed.
Before I made the decision to start this cycle I was sickly thin. I smoked cigaretes and herb on a regular basis. Being at a party school didn't help either. By making the decision to do something so serious-do a cycle of....steroids, I was inspired to change my whole lifestyle. I quit cigaretes. I barely smoke herb anymore, and I don't party as much.

This is what I want to know now:
1) When is it cool to start my next cycle?
2) What should I do during my next cycle?

I would rather have as few shots as possible since I do not like needls. However I understand that with certain chemicals, multiple weekly shots are necesary to maintain blood saturation, etc. I want to take the best stuff out there for serious gains, appetite increase, vascularity, and I want to keeop the gains. What should I do? I am under 170 pounds, 5'9", 4% body fat.
All advice welcome, especially from the veterans and mods with experience.

Thank you ALL!!!!
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[SwitchedOn]

Hey congrats on your gains bro, nice stats too especially the bf%. What were the dosages you used? I hope you waited the right amount of time before starting your clomid. Being on sust/deca you should've started your clomid about 3 weeks after your last shot of deca and should last at least 3 weeks. I'd wait 6-8 weeks after your last dose of clomid before starting your next cycle. This time will help you solidy your gains and give your ligaments, tendons, and testicles room to breath. If you're looking for vascularity and appetite there is no substitute for eq. Since your bf% is already low then I wouldn't worry about cutting cals- so that leaves bulking. Maybe a dbol/test/eq cycle will give you the results you desire. Throw in some liquidex or arimidex to keep the bloat and fat down and you'll gain serious size and stay vascular and ripped. Good luck, hope this helps.

 

[Testosterone Spike]

I did wait 3 weeks before starting the clomid.
thanks Switch,
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[tarzan21]

congrats bro keep up the good work. as for when to start next cycle/ time on = time off

 

[skydog]

I too am getting ready to start a cycle of sust/deca on 12/1. I'm interested in your cal/pro intake as I am close to your stats. I am 5'-8" 155 and am looking for a good 15-20lbs from this cyc. Also, did you use any anti e's (I'm going to run proviron), any sides?what were your dosages and what product manuf did you use. I am going to run with TTokkyo for both.

You input would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Testosterone Spike]

I used ttyokyo sust; that shit pissed me off first 4 shots. Extreme soreness. First 2 shots I couldnt walk right. They were the old batch numbers. Search to learn more about that. As for the Deca is what organon, however I heard the stuff u have is great.
I prefered to take the sust twice a week to maintain blood concentrations. front loading might work well for you, too.

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT A GREAT 2ND CYCLE WOULD BE????
NO DBOL. I THINK I AM GOING TO DO EQ AND/OR DECA, AND SOME FORM OF TEST; PREFERABLY A LONGER ACTING SINGLE ESTER. BUT I DONT KNOW.

 

[NewGuy1980]

DoC,

Are you open to Fina? Everyone on the board raves about it like a miracle drug. I know you dont like injections, but 75 MG ED seems to be working the best for everyone. Just a suggestion. My first cycle will consists of

500MG of Test eth with a frontload of 800Mg weeks 1-2 (total weeks 1-8)

75Mg of fina ED weeks 2-8

Armidex .5 mg ED

Clomid post cycle.

We'll see how it goes. I am 14-16% BF (jealous you dont have that problem) so Fina is supposed to do wonders for BF as well. But it is also for a bit of strength/mass increase. If you are looking for mass alone, I would go with a Test (eth or prop they seem to be the longest acting esters) and deca. That will be good for Mass/power. SwitchedON is on the $$$. I would keep some liquidex or armidex on hand (avg dose to avoid water retention is .25-.5 mg ED).

 

[Chuck T]

If you want somethign to increase your appetite go with EQ. Then you could throw in test - if you dont want to inject that often you could go with sus. Then if you dont mind being severely hard and vascular you could throw in the fina(alot of sticks, I know) and winny combo.

Maybe run

EQ 800mg wk 1-2, 400-600mg wk 3-10
Sus 750mg wk 1-2, 500mg wk 3-10
Winny 50mg ED wk 6-12
Fina 75mg ED wk 6-12

Clomid post cycle-4 days after fina (should coincide with 3 weeks after last sus shot)

Again, if you could handle the sticks, throw the fina/winny combo in there in the end. Hope this helps some...Good luck

Chuck

 

[Chuck T]

I think M56M is doing a cycle with all of that in it...bump for his advice.

 

[Nathan]

"I also just started a cycle of creatine to help keep my gains and even keep gaining."

Honestly, that is a good mentality. You will be disappointed, but what you're more likely to find is that your strength stays put as opposed to letting it slide because that is what you have been told should happen. Keep training hard bro but cut back on volume.

I'm trying:

fina 1-6 75mg ED
winny 2-8 50mg ED

Starting in just over a week (woo hoo). Will let you know how irt goes and if I recommend it.