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Post Cycle-Traditional vs. "Modern"/Nelson M.

Old School vs. New School PCT

  • Clomid and/or Nolva post cycle. Always worked, still does

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • Clomid and Nolva never worked for me, but Avena/Trib/Mac/etc seem to actually work, thanks Nelson!

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Clomid/Nolva seemed to work for me b4, but this other stuff is even better!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tried both, and prefer the new "herbal/otc" suggestions.

    Votes: 5 21.7%
  • Tried both, and prefer "old school" clomid/nolva post cycle

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
    23

KOArtist

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Just wanted to see how many people are actually trying pct without clomid, per Nelson M, etc. And how many people are sticking with the old clomid. Have any of you "Nelson Plan" people had problems post cycle and think its a crock of shit? Maybe the exact opposite? Please vote
 
Has anyone actually done the same cycle twice, and then tried both options post cycle, gotten bloodwork afterwards, etc. YOU are who I want to hear from!
 
I'm combining... typical post cycle with some herbs Nelson recommends... they're so cheap it certainly can't hurt. I also wouldn't risk recovering on herbs alone though.
 
Did the Herbal but threw in Nolva as well, worked fantastic. Didn't use Clomid as it doesn't work for me.

Kept more strength and size this time around.

As said I would be a little timid to just try Herbals alone.
 
I am staring PCT next week, it consists of:

Nolva

Clomid

Zinc

Avena Satvia

Milk Thistle (not for HPTA help, just the ole liver)

Trib (not sure that this helps with HPTA, but it does help sex drive, well in my experience anyway)

Creatine(again not for HPTA help, just to help keep strength/size PC)

Not sure I answered your question, but I hope that helps.
 
I'm on post cycle right now consisting of:

20mg nolva ED
1.25mg of femara ED
Maca 2gms ED
Trib 2gms ED
Creatine 10gms ED

I recovered well off of clomid/nolva combined last time but im trying this for something different.
 
my post cycle consists of:

20mg nolva ED
100mg clomid ED 10days, 50mg ED 20days
.625 mg bromo ED
1mg ED femara
50mg zinc ED at bedtime
carao extract 1TBsp ED
Trib (2-3x recommended dose)
yohimbine Hcl (6-10mg/day)

initially just did the clomid/arimidex but i've added a few things over the past few cycles and it really helps me come back much quicker.
 
Lift Chief said:
I'm combining... typical post cycle with some herbs Nelson recommends... they're so cheap it certainly can't hurt. I also wouldn't risk recovering on herbs alone though.
This is what I plan on doing next time also.

Funny thing the winds of change, if you'd asked this question a year ago everyone would have been using Clomid.
 
3/4 of time I don't even do PCT. I just come off, it irritates me less, and my test comes up 3-4 wks after ester leaves body (like 3 wks) by testing. And I'm almost 40. The real point is that Nelson noticed HCG doesn't work (or kicks up estrogen as much as anything). People do all kinds of things like anti-e's, hcg, clomid without seeing what they need, just because they were told to. If, as I get even older, I start to have trouble bouncing back, I'm definitely starting with herbals . . . The worst times I've ever had are with HCG/Clomid.
 
I did the traditional pct my first go round with juice and I've done mixed ever since and I feel 100 times better during pct when I use Nelson's style with 12.5 mg of clomid per day..
 
my post cycle consists of:

20mg nolva ED
100mg clomid ED 10days, 50mg ED 20days
.625 mg bromo ED
1mg ED femara
50mg zinc ED at bedtime
carao extract 1TBsp ED
Trib (2-3x recommended dose)
yohimbine Hcl (6-10mg/day)

initially just did the clomid/arimidex but i've added a few things over the past few cycles and it really helps me come back much quicker.

I'm on post cycle right now consisting of:

20mg nolva ED
1.25mg of femara ED
Maca 2gms ED
Trib 2gms ED
Creatine 10gms ED

I recovered well off of clomid/nolva combined last time but im trying this for something different.

I have heard mixed views on using Femara and Nolva at the same time. It has been offered that they counteract one another.
 
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