post cycle strength loss and gains?????

[jeb0177]

that's cool.

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

Is nolva as good as clomid for PCT?

 

[wnt2bBeast]

i think the reason a lot of guys loose a lot of their gains is bc they dont have the drive to go workout anymore... i know i live to workout when i am on gear but after i get off i just dont have the drive anymore

i think most msitake water weight for muscle..some water is a good thing for joints and added strength.personally im more fired up after a cycle to try to keep my weight and strength as close to cycle peak as possible..you need to use techniques to keep your motivation there otherwise youll wind up just another fat juicehead!!

 

[evander1972]

I was running Dbol at 35mg pd for 4 weeks and Sust at 650mg pw for 10 weeks. One week before my last shot of Sust I started HCG at 500 iu's eod for 9 shots. Then 3 weeks after last shot of Sust I did Nolva at 40mg pd for a week then 20 mg for a week then 10 mg for 2 weeks. I made a full recovery and lost no strength. I losr water and some stamina but no ultimate strength.

 

[slat1]

jeb0177 keep an eye on how long it takes test ent to clear your system. If you start Clomid before it does clear then the Clomid will shut you down farther and cause gyno symptoms. I would wait an extra 4 days to make the total time off 14 days instead of ten!
I did a cycle similar to one the one mentioned with Test/deca. I used HCG during and Clomid after. I dropped 6 lbs... water I believe. No strength loss at all!
Nice to see everyone doing PCT and research!

 

[desman]

jeb0177 keep an eye on how long it takes test ent to clear your system. If you start Clomid before it does clear then the Clomid will shut you down farther and cause gyno symptoms. I would wait an extra 4 days to make the total time off 14 days instead of ten!
I did a cycle similar to one the one mentioned with Test/deca. I used HCG during and Clomid after. I dropped 6 lbs... water I believe. No strength loss at all!
Nice to see everyone doing PCT and research!

or better yet, run something like prop for 3 weeks after last enanth. shot then start pct 4 days after last prop poke

 

[jeb0177]

jeb0177 keep an eye on how long it takes test ent to clear your system. If you start Clomid before it does clear then the Clomid will shut you down farther and cause gyno symptoms. I would wait an extra 4 days to make the total time off 14 days instead of ten!
I did a cycle similar to one the one mentioned with Test/deca. I used HCG during and Clomid after. I dropped 6 lbs... water I believe. No strength loss at all!
Nice to see everyone doing PCT and research!

yeah I know what you mean bro thanks for your suggestion. the reason I start at 10 is because I want to keep most of my gains I don't want to wait until the last minute to the drug to totally disapear out of my system I rather have it diminish as much as possible so that way I'm not totally drained out of test and I will have my clomid in my system trying to stimulate my LH glands. as far as gyno goes, as long as a take nolva to bind my receptors I think I'm fine, besides that I will use an anti-e because I know that I will have a lot of estrogen floating around. I will keep that In mind and maybe start at the 13th day and see how it goes. I will keep you updated bro.

 

[jeb0177]

or better yet, run something like prop for 3 weeks after last enanth. shot then start pct 4 days after last prop poke

that's what I would do for my next cyclet running prop for the last 3 weeks and then start my pct after 3-4 days that way my test en will be out of my system by then.

 

[shotgunmike]

Starting week 4 of pct clomid 100/75/50/25 and nolva 40/30/20/20/10...out of a 6week pct. Ran 14 weeks test prop 150 eod and eq at 600 week. No strength losses....still very strong. Started @ 248 and went to 263, but BF went from 23% to 17% ......Weight dropped from 263 to 255 during first 2 weeks pct. 3rd week went up to 259. Didnt run any HCG during cycle. Ran proviron for most of it and then started nolva @ 20mg daily two weeks before last shot. Supplements im taking.
CLA, ALAs, DHEA, relora, multivitamin, milk thistle, creatine, glutamine, alanine, arginine, calcium/magnesium supps,,,,,
hoping to retain as much strength as possible.