Post-Cycle Loss; Clen/Cynomel

[FLmuscles]

I had a really great cycle that I finished on April 6. I used Anadrol-50 for six weeks, with Test-400. and Deca for ten weeks. My weight went from 204# to a peak of 228#. Of course, I expect some post-cycle losses, but watching your weight drop SUCKS, doesn't it!

Two weeks after the cycle, I started HCG (5,000 IU, 3days-off, 5000 IU, 3 days-off, 5,000 IU, 3days-off 3,000 IU, willl do one more at 3,000.) Plus Clomid, 100 mg/day for 2 weeks, now going to 50 mg/day for 2 more weeks) and Nolvadex. Plus I've been taking Atomic Test. (one of those Tribulus test. boosters) and Mexthoxygen, which Flex mag. gave a promising review.)

Still, 2 weeks after that last test. shot, in one week, I lost nearly ten pounds! I'm sure it must all be water, but it pisses me off (literally!) Last Monday, I started taking Clen and Cynomel too; I've read that the Clen blocks the cortisol receptors to help reduce muscle loss, while burning fat. Well, this has been an INCREDIBLE combo. I'm down to 215# now :-( (which I dont like) but I am really shredded! The fat (which I didn't have much of) seems to just "fall off!" I have great vascularity, and my abs, which had been concealed under some BLOAT, are popping out like crazy now.

My question is, how lean should I get? I don't have a contest or anything, and i don't want to risk muscle loss. Still, my strength has remained great, even increased somewhat, perhaps because of the stimulant effect of the Clen. Also, in the future, should I start the clen earlier?? (I didn't have it in hand until the day I started it this time)

Thanks!

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

Well holy shit Brother, you must have read my mind. I am also post- cycle right now and I was thinking of doing EXACTLY what you are currently undertaking. I've already completed one month of Nolva at 20mg/ED and I've already cranked 12500IU of HCG in the past two weeks(got one more 2500IU shot left) which will be followed by a few more weeks of Clomid.

I've kept just about all of my gains(strength&size), but I have lost a significant amount of my definition and muscle hardness in the past month. I've got plenty of Cytomel and Clen set to go and have been researching this post- cycle regimen for a week now. I've never used Cytomel before and to tell ya the truth, I'm VERY scared of fucking up. ANYBODY who has experience with Cytomel post- cycle, please feel free to give me your opinion on this.

Peace,
S.

 

[NFG123]

I had a really great cycle that I finished on April 6. I used Anadrol-50 for six weeks, with Test-400. and Deca for ten weeks. My weight went from 204# to a peak of 228#. Of course, I expect some post-cycle losses, but watching your weight drop SUCKS, doesn't it!

Two weeks after the cycle, I started HCG (5,000 IU, 3days-off, 5000 IU, 3 days-off, 5,000 IU, 3days-off 3,000 IU, willl do one more at 3,000.) Plus Clomid, 100 mg/day for 2 weeks, now going to 50 mg/day for 2 more weeks) and Nolvadex. Plus I've been taking Atomic Test. (one of those Tribulus test. boosters) and Mexthoxygen, which Flex mag. gave a promising review.)

Still, 2 weeks after that last test. shot, in one week, I lost nearly ten pounds! I'm sure it must all be water, but it pisses me off (literally!) Last Monday, I started taking Clen and Cynomel too; I've read that the Clen blocks the cortisol receptors to help reduce muscle loss, while burning fat. Well, this has been an INCREDIBLE combo. I'm down to 215# now :-( (which I dont like) but I am really shredded! The fat (which I didn't have much of) seems to just "fall off!" I have great vascularity, and my abs, which had been concealed under some BLOAT, are popping out like crazy now.

My question is, how lean should I get? I don't have a contest or anything, and i don't want to risk muscle loss. Still, my strength has remained great, even increased somewhat, perhaps because of the stimulant effect of the Clen. Also, in the future, should I start the clen earlier?? (I didn't have it in hand until the day I started it this time)

Thanks!

IMO clen does nothing of the sort. I think Bill roberts recommends it cause it will continue to allow you to eat lots of calories without getting fat, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off alternating with ECA or NYC. Get as lean as you want to ... the leaner you get the more muscle you lose ... esp if you are off the drugs now. If you start another cycle in a few weeks then you can get pretty lean but until then, id avoid the diet otherwise you will lose a lot of size you just gained.

 

[NFG123]

Sorry.

Clen might also have anticatabolic properties cause it has some mild anabolic that mght help out with preventing muscle loss post cycle ... im not so sure about blocking cortisol receptors ....

NFG

 

[FLmuscles]

Scotty,
I used Cynomel on my last cycle, incorporating it in at the end of the cycle for about a month. Phase it in slowly, 1 pill a day for a few days, then 2 a day for a few days, etc. (Phase it out the same way.) I never went above 3/day, as my body chemistry seems to make these drugs especially effective. I got pretty wired and jittery on the Cynomel alone.

Now, I am taking 3 clen and 3 cynomel ED. I've read that you can take clen 2 days on, 2 days off as well. I swear, I feel like I have taken a street drug on this combo--totally wired. Keep an eye on your blood pressure if you do this combo. Mine tends to get elevated pretty easily, so I watch it closely.

But, for burning fat, this kicks ass!

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

Yeah, thanks for the info. I'm really torn on this idea of using these agents post- cycle. There's another thread up right now where a guy said he used this post-cycle and his biceps went down to 14". Fuck Bro, my biceps are at 16" right now and I'd die if they shrink from there. My two BIG concerns are the loss of significant amounts of muscle while on it and the whole possibility of Thyroid dysfuction when all is said and done.

Also, my Dad and sister on both on low-dose T4 because of mild hypothyroidism. So I obviously have to consider the genetic potential. The only reason I'm still considering using it(despite that) is that my Dad and my sister share ALL their genetics, I've got all my Mom's. Dad and sis are both diabetics as well. And get this... My Dad played offensive line for Purdue and I can't get above 2 bills, no matter what. Must have been the milk-man.

S.

 

[FLmuscles]

HAH!!! Too funny! But, really, of course, half your genes come from your Mom and half from your Dad, so you may be predisposed to hypothyroidism. Why not try the Clen alone since this is a risk for you?

I've decided to start to wean off of these both, as I have really gotten ripped fast, despite the fact that I am still eating at nearly the level I was on-cycle, and I DON'T want to lose any more muscle mass!!! I would only go leaner if I were precontest.