post cycle help pls (SATCH)

[thedawg]

Can any one help me figure out what I need?
In the next few months I will be finishing up a primo cycle, consisting of 12 shots (100mg) over 12 weeks. I have previously received advice that no post cycle should be needed; that the twins will not slow their natural test. production. That advice was very much appreciated. However, I must say (half way thru my cycle) I am beginning to worry that my endogenous test. levels are dropping. This is my first experience with primo and my sex drive is following the same route it did with sustonon and winstrol. Am I concerned for nothing, or does anyone think I need to follow up with some hcg and/or clomid? If so, How much and how often do I use the HCG. I am comfortable using the clomid, but is there a standard regimen used when combining the two?
THx--- THE DAWG

 

[ryan04]

So your on 100 mgs of primo a week? That cycle blows.

 

[bobbie]

If u feel that way add 500iu of HCG ed or eod just to keep in touch with them. U dont combin Clomid & HCG correct me if im wrong on that but im 99%. Find out how long it takes primo to leave the body then start Clomid if u feel u need it.But with such a low dose u shouldnt but its ur body u now it best. Take it all if u feel u need it

 

[shamrock11]

You can take clomid and HCG nothing wrong with it. People just shy away from clomid b/c of the effect it has on mood.

 

[black sheep]

So your on 100 mgs of primo a week? That cycle blows.

"100 mg Primobolan Depot/week, combined with 50 mg Winstrol Depot/week, is usually an effective stack for many women and is tolerated well so that virilization symptoms are rarely observed"

No your wrong - It would be good if he was a girl and threw in some winny - LOL

 

[Slyder190]

HCG should be taken during the cycle, and Clomid/Nolva after.

 

[|3ossman]

go get some test now, do a real cycle, and then do a pct. 100mg of primo a week? Where the hell did you come up with that?

 

[dullboy]

100mg of primo?

not sure of the efficacy of such a low dose.

you should have zero sides.


i bet you could take 100mg a week for the rest of your life with no sides.

 

[satchboogie]

a few point to clarify..


1) THEDAWG.. are you a woman? what are your stats including age, and training experience.

2) 100mg primo willl have no affect on natural test levels... i wish i can pull those studies for you but i accidentally deleted the links.. im sure somebody can find them.

3) SLYDER you have it wrong bigtime...

taking nolvadex with clomid is a mistake.
they both pretty much do the same thing for pct with clomid having more sides..
so its either one of the 2.. stacked with hcg..

 

[Slyder190]

Satch (and this a friendly discussion, not tryin to come off as a dick), I can see where you're comin from on Clomid/Nolva stance, I just run both anyway. As far as HCG, it keeps you shut down. So what is the sense in taking it after your cycle? Better to get the boys back in shape first so they can habdle the job of getting back on track via Clomid and/or Nolva.

 

[satchboogie]

Satch (and this a friendly discussion, not tryin to come off as a dick), I can see where you're comin from on Clomid/Nolva stance, I just run both anyway. As far as HCG, it keeps you shut down. So what is the sense in taking it after your cycle? Better to get the boys back in shape first so they can habdle the job of getting back on track via Clomid and/or Nolva.

yes youre right, hcg will indeed have a loop affect, but gives a MASSIVE boost in test levels which of course will also make your estrogen levels high.. thus the addition of nolvadex.

in all, it does more good than bad, and is mandatory at the cessation of cycles..

 

[Slyder190]

yes youre right, hcg will indeed have a loop affect, but gives a MASSIVE boost in test levels which of course will also make your estrogen levels high.. thus the addition of nolvadex.

in all, it does more good than bad, and is mandatory at the cessation of cycles..

So it's back to square one. You get an artificial rise in test levels, and so the body will refrain from pumping out it's own natural levels of test. You drop the HCG, and the body will then begin to climb again where test is concerned. Same difference as using AAS. A lot of guys will argue this tooth and nail, but this where I stand on it.

 

[slat1]

I would run 500ius Mon/Thursday until a week before the esters clear. I would use nolva on the days I use HCG too (to keep your LH2 from desensitizing)
Then I would hit 300mgs of clomid day1, 100mgs day 2 through 11, and 50mgs day 12 through 21.
Thats just me.