possible gyno symptons

[kindanasty]

Bear with me on this please...

Intended 1st cycle was 12 weeks 450 test-e, weeks 1-4 30mg dbol.

Due to work commitments I didn't initally start the test-e, but 3 weeks in commitments changed so the test cycle was back on.

So, I did my 1st test-e pin on Sunday. All good.

But, last night I noticed that my left pec looked slighty bloated compared to the right.
When I poked and prodded around I felt like a bruise above and to the left of the nipple. Nipples are fine, not sensitve or itchy.

As a panic measure I took 60mg of nolva last night and I'm taking another 60mg (20 every 6hrs) today.
Also didn't take any dbol today.

My questions are:
Does this sound like gyno? I appreciate it could be a bruise and non symetricle pecs.
Should I stop or reduce the dbol?
Should I continue with the test? I know this isn't the cause but should I stop until its cleared?
Should I continue test with 10-20mg nolva dail?

 

[younesom]

Bear with me on this please...

Intended 1st cycle was 12 weeks 450 test-e, weeks 1-4 30mg dbol.

Due to work commitments I didn't initally start the test-e, but 3 weeks in commitments changed so the test cycle was back on.

So, I did my 1st test-e pin on Sunday. All good.

But, last night I noticed that my left pec looked slighty bloated compared to the right.
When I poked and prodded around I felt like a bruise above and to the left of the nipple. Nipples are fine, not sensitve or itchy.

As a panic measure I took 60mg of nolva last night and I'm taking another 60mg (20 every 6hrs) today.
Also didn't take any dbol today.

My questions are:
Does this sound like gyno? I appreciate it could be a bruise and non symetricle pecs.
Should I stop or reduce the dbol?
Should I continue with the test? I know this isn't the cause but should I stop until its cleared?
Should I continue test with 10-20mg nolva dail?

I highly doubt that after your first pin you would be getting gyno symptoms. Although, the symptons you did describe are the correct onset. Unless you are really gyno prone, it might just be in your head. Are you taking an AI? You should start taking it at the beginning of your cycle.

 

[kindanasty]

I highly doubt that after your first pin you would be getting gyno symptoms. Although, the symptons you did describe are the correct onset. Unless you are really gyno prone, it might just be in your head. Are you taking an AI? You should start taking it at the beginning of your cycle.

I don't think its the test, I've been taking 30mg dbol daily for 28 days.

Sore as hell now (still not the nipple) on my left pec, but that's more than likely to do with me poking and prodding all night. So as you say how much is in my head.

 

[younesom]

Ahh, dbol is known to give gyno like no other. I actually got gyno from dbol while taking a AI. Are you taking an AI on cycle? If you feel a pea size lump that hurts too touch, its gyno for sure. If you do develop those symptons, i would suggest getting letro. It removed my gyno in one week, but you have to get it early.

 

[kindanasty]

Ahh, dbol is known to give gyno like no other. I actually got gyno from dbol while taking a AI. Are you taking an AI on cycle? If you feel a pea size lump that hurts too touch, its gyno for sure. If you do develop those symptons, i would suggest getting letro. It removed my gyno in one week, but you have to get it early.

No AI while on cycle, I panicked and took 60mg of nolva last night.

I poked around so much last night I'm really sore, but yes I did find a tiny pea shaped lump.

I'll source letro and get that on board asap.

Cheers fella

 

[rich_89]

My gyno lumps are painless, but just feel like the top layer of skin has been taken off my nipple when i have a shirt on. It's definitely the dbol and it's definitely gyno onset, and you should be taking a maintenance dose of an aromatase inhibitor with it.

Start this immediately. And then get some letro on hand to remove them lumps after your cycle.

 

[younesom]

I would take nolva until you get some letro, but no need to take 60mg a day. I would continue taking 20mg a day for a week. If the lump is still there start with the letro at 2.5 mg a day.

 

[kindanasty]

4 days of nolva and the bruise sensation has almost gone, so I'm happy about that.

But I'm still shitting myself that it'll come back full on when the test-e kicks in.

As this is my 1st cycle I don't know entirely what to expect if gyno does come on.

Will an AI stop it or is there a chance the Ai will be ineffective?

Basic noobie questions sorry

 

[rich_89]

I'm sorry to rant bro, but you should have all this information locked down before you take any steroids whatsoever.

It's absolutely ludicrous that you dont know this basic information, and you have been taking dianabol (one of the most highly aromatising steroids) for 3 weeks!

With your cycle you should be taking a maintenance dose of an aromatase inhibitor, either arimidex or forma stanzol. This should carry on into your pct, to prevent any rebound. I recommend liquidex from chemicalneed for a simple and trustworthy product. buy it and start taking 0.5ml each day for a few days then drop it to as little as possible to suppress the gyno symptoms. I take 0.5ml every 3 days and it seems to work for me. If i miss it i get itchy nips.

 

[kindanasty]

I'm sorry to rant bro, but you should have all this information locked down before you take any steroids whatsoever.

It's absolutely ludicrous that you dont know this basic information, and you have been taking dianabol (one of the most highly aromatising steroids) for 3 weeks!

With your cycle you should be taking a maintenance dose of an aromatase inhibitor, either arimidex or forma stanzol. This should carry on into your pct, to prevent any rebound. I recommend liquidex from chemicalneed for a simple and trustworthy product. buy it and start taking 0.5ml each day for a few days then drop it to as little as possible to suppress the gyno symptoms. I take 0.5ml every 3 days and it seems to work for me. If i miss it i get itchy nips.

Your not ranting dude, you're right.
I thought I had it all sussed, but I've clearly got confused on some points.

I ran the cycle past some guys on another forum (not blaming them) and all sounded well.

I've reached out to my man and will be getting either arimidex or proviron if he hasn't got the former.

Thanks for your support and advise!

 

[younesom]

Proviron will not help. I would get the Adex and letro as well. Letro will destroy the gyno, if caught early.