Please evaluate my cycle, 1st time!!!!!

[marcboarder]

Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum so thanks in advance for your input. I have a few questions. I'm going to be doing a cycle a gear, my first REAL cycle. About 9 months ago I went against the grain and took 25mg ed of D-Bol for 8 weeks and used 6 OXO for pct. Please refrain from the negative comments on that, it helped me pick up a few pounds and quite a bit of strength and i broke through that darn plateau! I was able to keep most of my size and strength off of it so that was awesome.
Here is my proposed 10 week cycle

400-500mg Test Enth or Cyp a week
200-300mg Deca a week
25-30 Dbol ED for the first 4 weeks
Nolva throughout the whole cycle

PCT= CLOMID AND NOLVADEX

My questions are the following...
How much nolva during AND after, and how much clomid after...
I've read up on Sustanon and would like to know if I should use that blend of tests instead of the one single type of Test...
Also, should I use and Winstrol, or even Clenbuterol to cut at the end? Will I need to cut at the end? I'd like to have a sixer in the abs... Is that possible without cutting drugs?

My stats:
6ft
190lbs
12% bodyfat
21 years... YES I KNOW I'M YOUNG AND HIT THE WEIGHTS AND EAT RIGHT AND SLEEP GOOD, lol... I've done that for the past 4 years and it has slowly but surely work, and after having multiple friends use AAS's, and researching and researching for the past two years I've decided to take the pludge as well.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!!

 

[ironclaw]

Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum so thanks in advance for your input. I have a few questions. I'm going to be doing a cycle a gear, my first REAL cycle. About 9 months ago I went against the grain and took 25mg ed of D-Bol for 8 weeks and used 6 OXO for pct. Please refrain from the negative comments on that, it helped me pick up a few pounds and quite a bit of strength and i broke through that darn plateau! I was able to keep most of my size and strength off of it so that was awesome.
Here is my proposed 10 week cycle

400-500mg Test Enth or Cyp a week
200-300mg Deca a week
25-30 Dbol ED for the first 4 weeks
Nolva throughout the whole cycle

PCT= CLOMID AND NOLVADEX

My questions are the following...
How much nolva during AND after, and how much clomid after...
I've read up on Sustanon and would like to know if I should use that blend of tests instead of the one single type of Test...
Also, should I use and Winstrol, or even Clenbuterol to cut at the end? Will I need to cut at the end? I'd like to have a sixer in the abs... Is that possible without cutting drugs?
One last thing, my friends have bought from pharmaeurope.com and redicat.com... do you have any input on their legitimacy?

My stats:
6ft
190lbs
12% bodyfat
21 years... YES I KNOW I'M YOUNG AND HIT THE WEIGHTS AND EAT RIGHT AND SLEEP GOOD, lol... I've done that for the past 4 years and it has slowly but surely work, and after having multiple friends use AAS's, and researching and researching for the past two years I've decided to take the pludge as well.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!!

I'm not sure if I can comment on the companies you listed. so email me and i'll get back with you. [email protected]

I would bump the deca up to at least 400 mg/week, as far as what mg. of nolva to use for antiestrogen, are you prone to gyno? You said you did a dbol only cycle, did you experience puffy nips or any small lumps under the nip? IF so, I wouldn't use the nolva with the deca, it could make the gyno symtomes worse. You could use AIFM in place of the nolva for an antiestrogen. About the sustonon vs the test enanthate, I think you'll get faster results from using sustonon because of the prop in it, but the enanthate is a good choice also, it just may take a little longer for you to see results, maybe 2 weeks. IT is possible to cut at the end of that cycle, all you have to do is watch your diet throughout the cycle. An addition of winny at 50 mg/day for the last 3 weeks would help. just remember, diet is a big % of the entire process. You're already at a relatively low bf %, with the test, deca, dbol combo and watching the diet, you shouldn't have a problem with dropping your bf enough to get a 6 pack. Don't forget to add cardio if your progress slows. I would ask macro or ulter your specific questions about pct

 

[marcboarder]

I'm not sure if I can comment on the companies you listed. so email me and i'll get back with you. [email protected]

I would bump the deca up to at least 400 mg/week, as far as what mg. of nolva to use for antiestrogen, are you prone to gyno? You said you did a dbol only cycle, did you experience puffy nips or any small lumps under the nip? IF so, I wouldn't use the nolva with the deca, it could make the gyno symtomes worse. You could use AIFM in place of the nolva for an antiestrogen. About the sustonon vs the test enanthate, I think you'll get faster results from using sustonon because of the prop in it, but the enanthate is a good choice also, it just may take a little longer for you to see results, maybe 2 weeks. IT is possible to cut at the end of that cycle, all you have to do is watch your diet throughout the cycle. An addition of winny at 50 mg/day for the last 3 weeks would help. just remember, diet is a big % of the entire process. You're already at a relatively low bf %, with the test, deca, dbol combo and watching the diet, you shouldn't have a problem with dropping your bf enough to get a 6 pack. Don't forget to add cardio if your progress slows. I would ask macro or ulter your specific questions about pct

Thanks so much for your reply! On the dbol, I did experience slight puffyness of the nip, although I've always kinda had that so I don't think I can attribute much of it to the D-Bol... I'd rather spend the extra money and play it safe with the anti's. Just curious as to why not use Nolva with the Deca...?

 

[Ulter]

Before you get into trouble for breaking the rules here you should remove those sites immediately from your post. The "R" site is good the other one has been known to rip people off.

Do not use Nolva when you're using deca. Use AIFM instead. As was posted already.
Use the upper end of what you wrote there. 500/300 AT LEAST, I'd use 750/300 if I were you.
Forget about cutting with that cycle. You can get rid of some fat but you're not likely to get lean using deca.

 

[georgie2006]

Before you get into trouble for breaking the rules here you should remove those sites immediately from your post. The "R" site is good the other one has been known to rip people off.

Do not use Nolva when you're using deca. Use AIFM instead. As was posted already.
Use the upper end of what you wrote there. 500/300 AT LEAST, I'd use 750/300 if I were you.
Forget about cutting with that cycle. You can get rid of some fat but you're not likely to get lean using deca.

agreed.

 

[niv]

if its a first cycle you'll make fine with the test 500mg and dbol kick start.. save the deca for next cycle..

 

[marcboarder]

Can anyone give me advice on what exactly I should take for anti-e during the cycle and off the cycle, and also what about taking clen or clomid to help maintain afterwards and get up the natural levels?

 

[smoke67]

if its a first cycle you'll make fine with the test 500mg and dbol kick start.. save the deca for next cycle..

I agree, see how you react to one drug. Test is a good start.

If you go with test only, as advised, save the nolva for PCT.
A good AI is AIFM or Adex.
Contact Mac or Ulter for AIFM dose. Adex, .5 mg EOD should do it.

 

[marcboarder]

Is it really best to skip the deca? I dont mind at all but I heard deca helps with the pain of test... or at least with sustanon it does... Is this true for Test Enth or Cyp?

 

[smoke67]

I have run them all, Sust is a bit more painful but not bad in my opinion. Being your first I would go with one drug. See how you react and if everything goes well, throw in the deca the next time.

 

[marcboarder]

how many mg's of nolva for pct? for how many weeks? thanks you guys are a lot of help i appreciate it

 

[The Godfather]

Test only is a great first cycle. PCT AFIM and Nolva 20-30mg a day 4-6 weeks until blood levels are back to normal

 

[marcboarder]

OKAY!!!! So here is my reformed proposed first cycle:

500mg Test Enth or Cyp Per week (split in two injections of 250mg in a week)
For all ten weeks
AIFM 2 pumps a day
For all ten weeks plus through pct and after through week 15
Clomid
100 mg a day for week 12
50mg a day for week 13

Hows this look?
What needle should I use for the test?

 

[niv]

OKAY!!!! So here is my reformed proposed first cycle:

500mg Test Enth or Cyp Per week (split in two injections of 250mg in a week)
For all ten weeks
AIFM 2 pumps a day
For all ten weeks plus through pct and after through week 15
Clomid
100 mg a day for week 12
50mg a day for week 13

Hows this look?
What needle should I use for the test?

looks good.. needle should prob be 23g

 

[The Godfather]

No need to split injections if you dont want to, I'd run it for 12-14 weeks, Test E wont kick in until around week 5-8

 

[mattrich]

i would still split the injections twice weekly to keep blood levels stable.

 

[lurchandy]

As far as pain from sus250. I get none whatsoever. Only time i did was the first shot and Im atributing that to the fact the doctor did it. he used a 21g 1 1/2 inch and pushed it in quick.
I do it with a 25 or 23g 1 1/2 in the glute and push slowly and get no pain at all.
just my 2c worth on the pain of sus

 

[marcboarder]

Thank you guys for all your help! anymore post would still be very much appreciated!

 

[MichaelScott]

Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum so thanks in advance for your input. I have a few questions. I'm going to be doing a cycle a gear, my first REAL cycle. About 9 months ago I went against the grain and took 25mg ed of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for 8 weeks and used 6 OXO for PCT - post cycle therapy - . Please refrain from the negative comments on that, it helped me pick up a few pounds and quite a bit of strength and i broke through that darn plateau! I was able to keep most of my size and strength off of it so that was awesome.
Here is my proposed 10 week cycle

400-500mg Test testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate a week
200-300mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - a week
25-30 Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ED for the first 4 weeks
Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - throughout the whole cycle

PCT= CLOMID AND NOLVADEX

My questions are the following...
How much Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - during AND after, and how much clomid after...
I've read up on Sustanon and would like to know if I should use that blend of tests instead of the one single type of Test...
Also, should I use and Winstrol, or even Clenbuterol to cut at the end? Will I need to cut at the end? I'd like to have a sixer in the abs... Is that possible without cutting drugs?

My stats:
6ft
190lbs
12% bodyfat
21 years... YES I KNOW I'M YOUNG AND HIT THE WEIGHTS AND EAT RIGHT AND SLEEP GOOD, lol... I've done that for the past 4 years and it has slowly but surely work, and after having multiple friends use anabolic androgenic steroids's, and researching and researching for the past two years I've decided to take the pludge as well.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!!

this is why noone answers your threads, you r a dumfuk, you posted this in dec and now you are asking questions that you already answered and talked about i got more

 

[marcboarder]

this is why noone answers your threads, you r a dumfuk, you posted this in dec and now you are asking questions that you already answered and talked about i got more

you accomplished a lot with that one bro