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nutsnack
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AS funny as it may sound, gonelifting is the best around here for this.
I prefer plasma - superior depth perception. HD plasma is in my oinion the best thing going.
I prefer plasma - superior depth perception. HD plasma is in my oinion the best thing going.
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nutsnack
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what size are you looking for?
cornfish
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CRT is still a tube like the big style PC monitor you have. DLP is Digital Light Processing and each screen has around a million tiny mirrors that rotate to provide the color. I bought that 65" DLP last October and each time i watch TV now i want to dump a load in my pants, but that's probably cause i watch allot of porn. I'm sure the TV has somethign to do with it though
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nutsnack
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lol at probably b/c im watching porn
It largely depends on where the TV will be sitting. If you can totally control the light in the room, then a CRT would be the cheapest and most bang for the buck option, but they are deep and bulky unlike the plasmas and lcd's which are thin but more expensive. ll the technologies have about the same PQ. Some are better than others in certain areas, that's why it's important to know where it would go.
Qucik answer is Plasma, but do you really need something that thin or do you have the 1 or 2 feet of space on one wall of your living room to save you the money. There are also Rear Projection LCD tv's that have great PQ but are deep as well because of their "rear projection" style, Sony has great ones (RP LCD tv)
I'd go to Costco and look around, see what you like and get one from there or look around for the same model # on the net for a lower price. They're hard to beat though, because they have pretty decent deals there. You can see the sizes they offer. Why pay more for thinness, when/if you don't need it.
There are Plasmas that are'nt HD but generally they are HD and pretty much all the newer sets are HD. They're referring to the scan lines a screen has. If it's over a certain amount, then it's HD. If it's in the middle it's EDTV "Enhanced Definition"...
Look for 1080i or 720p That would be HD.
avsforum.com is a great source for info.
Qucik answer is Plasma, but do you really need something that thin or do you have the 1 or 2 feet of space on one wall of your living room to save you the money. There are also Rear Projection LCD tv's that have great PQ but are deep as well because of their "rear projection" style, Sony has great ones (RP LCD tv)
I'd go to Costco and look around, see what you like and get one from there or look around for the same model # on the net for a lower price. They're hard to beat though, because they have pretty decent deals there. You can see the sizes they offer. Why pay more for thinness, when/if you don't need it.
There are Plasmas that are'nt HD but generally they are HD and pretty much all the newer sets are HD. They're referring to the scan lines a screen has. If it's over a certain amount, then it's HD. If it's in the middle it's EDTV "Enhanced Definition"...
Look for 1080i or 720p That would be HD.
avsforum.com is a great source for info.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11041460&whse=BC&topnav=&cat=4848&hierPath=79*4848*
^^^ here's a 62 inch DLP at Costco. $2499. They look great. I've looked briefly at other sites for price comparison, they were lower, but not by much, and after shipping and headache, it might not be worth it.
You also need to know what size screen you'll want. With HDTV you can sit closer to the screen than usual. They have some online clculators to see what size screen for the size room you have. Trust me, it's gonna be a big screen, no matter what size room you have. Good luck
I would factor in anothe 10-15% for cables and accessories befre spending the whole $2500 though.
^^^ here's a 62 inch DLP at Costco. $2499. They look great. I've looked briefly at other sites for price comparison, they were lower, but not by much, and after shipping and headache, it might not be worth it.
You also need to know what size screen you'll want. With HDTV you can sit closer to the screen than usual. They have some online clculators to see what size screen for the size room you have. Trust me, it's gonna be a big screen, no matter what size room you have. Good luck
I would factor in anothe 10-15% for cables and accessories befre spending the whole $2500 though.
Ffactor said:
OK Now you've narrowed it down. You MUST get a plasma or an LCD which is non RP meaning "flat" like 4 inches thick or whatever. All the other options are out. Even DLP is about 14-18 inches thick, that's a "NO".
So, you're down to a plsma and LCD. Take your pick. For $2500 you can't get a huge TV. You may want to see which TV size/price range the $2500 will get and go from there. Almost all these online sites can filter through TV's that way. "Plasma" "Screen size" "Price" then you'll have what's available and go from there... Do that for LCD "FLAT SCREEN" as well.
Someone just got a 42 inch plasma for $2000+ I forget the exact price. That might be a little small, but you may not get much more for the money you're spending. 50 inch would be nice but you better check the prices first.
HD = "High Definition" it's the quality of the Picture you're seeing. DLP, Plasma,LCD,CRT... are the technologies used to get "HD and ED" etc...
So HD is HD. You can GET HD with any of the "technologies" above (DLP, Plasma, LCD etc...) but in your case because of the fireplace location issue, you can only use plasma and lcd because of their thin design. The others are not applicable to your needs.
You'll probably end up with a plasma, maybe 42 or 50 inch. Just start shopping. When you see one, it'll tell you if it's HD or not. "HDTV".
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nutsnack
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do you jerk off to tv's GL? how do u know so much about them?
deltreefitness
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Ffactor said:
I doubt it. I have a fireplace with an oak mantel around it that has never caught on fire.
deltreefitness
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I think plasma is so popular because of how cool the name sounds. LCD is a bit lighter (in weight) and doesn't have burn-in issues. The picture quality is virtually the same in comparable HD sets.
bran987 said:
I made that comment before he said he's putting it over the fireplace. The comment still holds true in other cases, though. The cheapest Tv's are the Rear projection CRT, but they are deep and people are more into the "thin" design nowadays. I don't blame them, but they'll pay more for the set. The CRT TV's are still arguably the best PQ you can get, but things are moving so fast that they may or may not be the top spot anymore. Either way, it's (PQ) that close to get a RPTV for the money.
I don't think it's recommended to place the Tv on top of the fireplace, although many people have done so, I have no experience with it myself. I would be more concerned with PQ issues, does'nt the flame/heat cause some kind of haze over the fireplace? I have no idea, maybe not, but if it does, you can see where the problem lies. Also, would'nt the flame interfere with your line of sight? People try and cover the little LED's in their electronics as to not get distracted from the screen, I could imagine what flames would do to that. But again, I'm talking about fanatics, everyone has their preferrences.
Also, there's more to putting a "Plasma over the fireplace". You can't just buy one and stick it up there. You'll have to run cables up there, several of them, hopefully you don't want surround sound... even more cables. You DO want them hidden, correct? You'll probably want a DVD player, Sat or Cable, maybe an antenna for HD locals... All those cables will be seen. Also, most TV's don't come with a mounting bracket designed especially for that TV. Count that into the equation. Not trying to be a wise ass, just giving you a heads-up. Good luck.
Ffactor
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Found this on E-Bay. Toshiba 62" Plasma DLP HD. Only thing is I'm worried about the installation. Don't know if I can get it to work myself.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5786178505&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5786178505&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
deltreefitness
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Ffactor said:
That's a rear projection set. It's not plasma. Installation is pretty easy - set it on top of something flat. You can't mount it on a wall or anything.
supersizeme
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HDTV resolution > EDTV resolution
Better picture when watching stuff in HD.
Better picture when watching stuff in HD.
deltreefitness
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Ffactor said:
EDTV (Enhanced Definition) has only 480(i) lines of resolution. That's the same resolution as any plain modern TV set out today. It just has a double the refresh rate (progressive) 480(p). You might have heard of "progressive scan" DVD players? That's considered EDTV.
HDTV resolutions starts at 720(p).
So basically you have a clearer, more defined picture with HD (providing you have an HD signal). EDTV is just a marketing scheme to sell low priced "flat tv" with the appealing name of plasma to those less informed.
Here's a better explanation if you'd like.
deltreefitness
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Ffactor said:
Well technically yes but it's the actual screen that holds the resolution (number of horizontal dots on the screen: 480, 720, 1080) not the tuner. The tuner only interprets the signal coming in. An EDTV can only show 480 lines of resolution not matter what signal you input.
So if you had an EDTV you can receive HD signal from an external HD tuner/receiver but you wouldn't actually be watching true HD resolution. You'd be watching it dumbed down to EDTV resolution.
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jackangel
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if you want to mount it on the wall, then a flat panel display is the only choice, as other faggots have said.
if you want to watch it from ~15 feet away, then you should have a reasonably large screen (42" at the least, and 50" is more appropriate i would think).
if you want to spend no more than $2500 and still get some quality for a larger display, then plasma is your only choice for the time being (as far as i know).
these are just my impressions, and i really don't know shit. i may be sitting in shit, but still. i don't know it.
if you want to watch it from ~15 feet away, then you should have a reasonably large screen (42" at the least, and 50" is more appropriate i would think).
if you want to spend no more than $2500 and still get some quality for a larger display, then plasma is your only choice for the time being (as far as i know).
these are just my impressions, and i really don't know shit. i may be sitting in shit, but still. i don't know it.
How did it go? I was gone for a while.
deltreefitness
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Ffactor said:
Go with higher resolution. The little extra room you'll take up is nothing compared to the image quiality you'll gain.
Yes I agree with deltree ^^^, go with the higher resolution if you have the space. Some people simply do not have the choice and require the flat panel, but if you can put it elsewhere, do it. You can enjoy this TV for many years and when the others get nice and cheap you can always spring for one of the other displays.
I purchased a 65 inch CRT rear projection this year. This should last me quite a while until the sets I really want get within reach and the technocolgies get straightened out. Electronics are going down in price almost daily. I purchased a 22 inchLCD screen last year for my kitchen wall for $1500 when they were going for $1800-$2000, I got a great deal. Now they're going for $800. Prices drop fast... Don't go for the higher priced item because "it's the best out there".
Post up the 2 TV's you're looking at and we'll give you some insight. btw My 65 inch is still not big enough IMO, so don't be surprised if you're not satisfied with the smaller screen size. Just a heads up.
Post em up.
Also, what will you be watching mainly on the screen? DVD's, Cable? Satellite? Will you be playing games on it as well?
I purchased a 65 inch CRT rear projection this year. This should last me quite a while until the sets I really want get within reach and the technocolgies get straightened out. Electronics are going down in price almost daily. I purchased a 22 inchLCD screen last year for my kitchen wall for $1500 when they were going for $1800-$2000, I got a great deal. Now they're going for $800. Prices drop fast... Don't go for the higher priced item because "it's the best out there".
Post up the 2 TV's you're looking at and we'll give you some insight. btw My 65 inch is still not big enough IMO, so don't be surprised if you're not satisfied with the smaller screen size. Just a heads up.
Post em up.
Also, what will you be watching mainly on the screen? DVD's, Cable? Satellite? Will you be playing games on it as well?
Ffactor said:
How will the lighting bein the room for the TV? Is it bright in there with a few windows and stuff, or is it relatively dark or dimmer?
The RPTV is better for a lower light atmosphere.
I have this TV and I really like it... Toshiba 65H84 It's the same price as the sony you posted but it's 65 inch HD. hmmm. lol Can you fit that in the room? LOL I don't wanna confuse you even more.
They do have 55 or 50 inch as well in the Toshibas. Good reviews.
I would go with high def.
BTW for that amount of money as they're asking for the EDTV, you can get a HD plasma.
bullett
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PooFactor:
You will have NO problem with the flat panel mounted above the fireplace. The installation kits will allow the screen to be tilted downwards from the top to the perfect viewing angle, based on how far away you are from it. Also, the heat is not an issue. I have a 61 Pioneer Elite mounted just that way, and it is fine.
Get the professional installation with the purchase, so that they can install, and assume liability for any failure of the mount, as well as adjust the black levels, etc, for the room.
Any questions can be answered here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=40
You will have NO problem with the flat panel mounted above the fireplace. The installation kits will allow the screen to be tilted downwards from the top to the perfect viewing angle, based on how far away you are from it. Also, the heat is not an issue. I have a 61 Pioneer Elite mounted just that way, and it is fine.
Get the professional installation with the purchase, so that they can install, and assume liability for any failure of the mount, as well as adjust the black levels, etc, for the room.
Any questions can be answered here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=40
bullett
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Ffactor said:
I am 12'......
fuck no, its a very natural viewing angle, slightly above eye level while sitting naturally on a sofa, or couch, or in a chair. You would only actually be looking "up" if you were sitting on a straight back bench, or so...
btw, if you are 15', get at least 42" screen or larger as you can afford, and go HDTV, not ED, as all network broadcasts are now available in HD, and all providers now have HD broadcasts...this will only proliferate, and watching anything in HD (720P, or 1080i) is like getting your cawk sucked by the girl of your dreams....fuckin awesome....
bullett
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Ffactor said:
Try this site:
http://www.plasmaconcepts.com/sections/avs.asp
they have much better pricing than BB...
for example, they are $1000 less on this Panny model..
Panasonic TH-42PD50U with 4yr Repair Master Ex-Warranty
