Planning a successful pct

[Applehead23]

Planning to pin for the first time. No dates set or anything, just sure test e 500 mg week will be my next cycle.

I first want to plan the very best pct available.

I have read everything and the pct recommendations (from this forum) all suggest hcgenerate, unleashed, bridge and post cycle, all products from ntbm.

I'm looking for feedback from those who aren't reps, just regular readers who have actually pct'd with these products.

Thanks..

 

[Applehead23]

Guess even though these products are "pushed" on this forum, no one actually uses them.

Was looking forward to trying them but not so sure I want to shell out all that $$ without any legit feedback.

 

[thecompound]

Every body uses them. I use the shit out of them and they are the best PCT you can get. Nolvadex sucks, clomid sucks. Read Nelsons best PCT sticky and you will have a foolproof system to success.

 

[Applehead23]

Dont u think it's unusual that pct protocol is virtually unknown outside of this forum? U mention OTC products anywhere else and prepare to be flamed.

 

[wevibe]

nice this post.....

 

[Applehead23]

I guess I'll stick with nolva/torem/clomid

 

[teddykgb29]

I like to go with clomid and nolva, just get real pct chems no over the counter stuff, and you'll be fine.

 

[bobby6638]

it's a legit question that should be answered by the people that follow N2's protocol. I read a few other legit boards & they will flame you.. That DOESN'T mean N2's will not work or might be better. Some old habits are hard to change. I haven't used N2's pct so I can not give a legit answer but some that have SHOULD. It would only reinforce the protocol. IMHO

 

[Applehead23]

Agree completely. I was close to trying it, but considering no one but those who push the products have anythibg good to say about them, even after starting a few threads, I went with the traditional stuff.

 

[goose333]

I was in the same boat. (same cycle) I just completed N2's OTC PCT and it work just fine for me. I used Nova in the past and did not like the sides I got from it. - take it for what its worth. And no I an not a rep just someone that decided to try something new.

 

[Applehead23]

I was in the same boat. (same cycle) I just completed N2's OTC PCT and it work just fine for me. I used Nova in the past and did not like the sides I got from it. - take it for what its worth. And no I an not a rep just someone that decided to try something new.

Thanks for chiming in, I wish more would!

 

[Typo]

I can't say anything about N2's OTC products but I have used nolva and clomid in the past and havn't had any bad sides and recovered fine.

I would love to try a pct full of these OTC products but the cost is just way too much. When reps go around saying you need just about every product on the product list to do it properly it puts me off.

 

[Cali72]

All of these bros that use nolva and clomid for pct and say "I recovered fine", I wonder if there is any blood work being done to confirm this?

If your not using hcg or hcgenerate on cycle then only using nolva and clomid for pct all I can say is good luck with your recovery.

 

[Typo]

All of these bros that use nolva and clomid for pct and say "I recovered fine", I wonder if there is any blood work being done to confirm this?

If your not using hcg or hcgenerate on cycle then only using nolva and clomid for pct all I can say is good luck with your recovery.

How can you say this, people have been recovering fine, with blood tests done, for many years using nolva and clomid. Me being one of them. I also personally know many other people that have used nolva/clomid pct and have had blood tests before and after.

Maybe it didn't work for you, that's just your bad luck because you would save a lot of $$$.

 

[skaman007]

simple answer to this ongoing serm v pct debate.....anyone confused should do a cycle then pct woth nolva and clomid...get bloods done.....next cycle do a cpt with needtos stuff and get bloods done then come to your own conclusion...

 

[skaman007]

simple answer to this ongoing serm v pct debate.....anyone confused should do a cycle then pct with nolva and clomid...get bloods done.....next cycle do a pct with needtos stuff and get bloods done then come to your own conclusion...

 

[Typo]

simple answer to this ongoing serm v pct debate.....anyone confused should do a cycle then pct with nolva and clomid...get bloods done.....next cycle do a pct with needtos stuff and get bloods done then come to your own conclusion...

This seems to be the logical thing to do which I honestly have been contemplating for some time but still am not confident enough to leave out the clomid and nolva.

 

[Cali72]

How can you say this, people have been recovering fine, with blood tests done, for many years using nolva and clomid. Me being one of them. I also personally know many other people that have used nolva/clomid pct and have had blood tests before and after.

Maybe it didn't work for you, that's just your bad luck because you would save a lot of $$$.

Serms alone are not quite going to cut it to restore test production after a cycle. These agents play more of a supportive role.

I also know people that use the nolva/clomid protocol and can barely hold onto their gains but to each their own.

We can debate about this back and forth but at the end of the day nolva/clomid does not work for me so I will never use it again.

All the best to you bro.

 

[tk12]

I know this is a little different but everyones different.
This is what I do.
Proviron during all cycles and usually when I'm not cycling.
Always have letro on hand. Don't always use it- but just in case.
HCG always at end of cycles.
Don't like clomid, adex or nolva.
Oh I also take lipotase- from primal muscle.
I know these cost money- but side effects are real and can happen.

 

[jimbob1]

Im kind of dissapointed that more users of hcgenerate and unleashed have not posted with their recovery results. 5-10 user reviews on here would go a long way with newbies like me who are considering dropping $200-$300 on these products.

 

[Applehead23]

Im kind of dissapointed that more users of hcgenerate and unleashed have not posted with their recovery results. 5-10 user reviews on here would go a long way with newbies like me who are considering dropping $200-$300 on these products.

You said it. I bought traditional pct products for my cycle after starting this thread and not getting the responses I was looking for.

 

[2gain]

I'm going to use them. Nolva and clomid don't seem to work to well for me. I'm going to try something new. If my body recovers SAFER and easier its worth the money.

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Bro I can tell you that nolva and clomid are temporary fixes. They temporarily raise your test and bloods will be good for a while as a result of taking the drugs. The difference is that with the products you mentioned your body starts producing naturally. Your own body then begins to recover. I have pct 'd both ways and my recovery was much smoother and I held my gains much better with need to's protical.

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[jimbob1]

Bro I can tell you that nolva and clomid are temporary fixes. They temporarily raise your test and bloods will be good for a while as a result of taking the drugs. The difference is that with the products you mentioned your body starts producing naturally. Your own body then begins to recover. I have pct 'd both ways and my recovery was much smoother and I held my gains much better with need to's protical.

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So what do you do if signs of gyno show up halfway through the cycle?

 

[obsessedwliftin]

So what do you do if signs of gyno show up halfway through the cycle?

Have some letro on hand just in case. Gyno symptoms will subside then taper off the letro.

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