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Planned Parenthood Offering Free Abortions After Attack

Im not for abortion, but Im also not for telling those women what to do, if they wanna do it, they can live with knowing what they've done. If it drives em crazy, I have no sympathy for them. If they can do it and always have a clear concience about it, more power to em. Not my life
 
The Nature Boy said:


How passionate are you about being pro-life? Do you rally at clinics?

If you do: Assuming it was fiscally feisable, would you adopt? A black child? A handicapped child? An arab child?

I'm not critizing your view point, just as long as you're not trying to forcefully shove it down anyone's throats.

I am a full time college student and I have a full time job. I do not rally at clinics---these are simply my convictions. They are based on my faith, and what I see as common sense.

If, one day in the future, I get married and am not able to have children with my wife--I would definetely adopt. I would hope that I would keep my options open as far as race goes. . . . that seems like too big of a decision to make at this point in my life, in my current situation.

thanks for asking and not assuming.

HM
 
huntmaster said:
I am proud to be prolife. I believe in the right to choose-but like others here, I believe the time to choose is before sex.
I think individuals need to take responsibility for their actions man or woman---and quit trying to rationalize murder.
1) Perhaps you might want to rethink your definition of murder.
It is pro-lifers who rationalize... the use of the word "murder".
What would it then be called when one kills another living, breathing, self-sustaining
human being, e.g. a gynecologist?

2) What is your response to those who:
a) did not chose to have sex (incest, rape) or
b) chose to use effective contraception (IUD's, injection, surgery) yet failed?

"tough luck, you have no choice?"

As lawyers will be the first to point out, you cannot allow for "grey lines" in the
law, i.e. "in this case it's ok, in this case it's not." We do not live in a catholic (or
other religion) country; the separation of church and state exists here, and it's
for a good reason.

You may BELIEVE that it is immoral not to say grace before eating.
You may BELIEVE that it is wrong to not believe in god.
You may BELIEVE that premarital sex is wrong.

None of these things are illegal.

You have the right to be anti-abortion and not have one.
But no one has the right to force their views on anyone else, no matter how strongly
they may feel about them. That is what makes this country what it is.
To try to justify and rationalize forcing one's beliefs on others by attaching a legal term like "murder" to them in an attempt to define the act as illegal is not one
bit more valid than to call premarital sex "lewd conduct" in an attempt to outlaw it.
 
Two beating hearts enter the doctor's office. One of the hearts is stopped intentionally. One beating heart leaves the office. Sounds to me like something was killed.

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RyanH said:
Velvett-

Don't despair. Many men don't understand a woman's right to privacy since 1) they will never carry a child, and since 2) most men were even hesitant to give women any rights, such as the fundamental right to vote.

It's very laughable to hear a man tell a woman to keep a child since obviously it isn't their body, their feelings, or their lives.

Ryan.

Weapon... are you thinking the same thing I am????
 
Would you adopt a child X? If you feel so strongly for children then why don't you adopt?

Lets say we outlaw abortion. Who the hell is going to take care of the kids that nobody wants? Are you willing to do your part?
 
The Nature Boy said:
Would you adopt a child X? If you feel so strongly for children then why don't you adopt?

Lets say we outlaw abortion. Who the hell is going to take care of the kids that nobody wants? Are you willing to do your part?

Your argument needs an injection of logic.

1.) I made my choice. I have two children for whom I am responsible. I am the biological father of one, and the adoptive father of the other.

2.) Being against abortion does not necessitate that one be willing to adopt "unwanted" children. It instead necessitates that one be willing to fight to reform a culture that produces so many "unwanted" children.

You shouldn't fuck anyone you are not willing to raise a child with. That's not an easy solution, but it's the only one. If you get drunk and bang someone and they get pregnant, it's not up to those who didn't make your mistake to raise the child.

Take the popular pro-abortion bumper sticker: "Against Abortion? Don't get one."
More spurious logic. Let's apply that same logic to other arguments:

"Against rape? Don't rape anyone."
"Against child abuse? Don't abuse a child."
"Against terrorism? Don't commit any acts of terror."

Sound ridiculous, don't they?

While I personally do not commit any of the acts above, I do believe that our society benefits from laws against them.

"Taking care of the kids nobody wants" is a separate issue entirely. And I think our nation is debased by seeking an answer to that question in the murder of those very children.
 
well I don't agree with you X, but I'll give you kudos. You've adopted.

YOU WALK IT LIKE YOU TALK IT!!!!

But I don't see how my arguement is not with logic. If a child grows up with out a family and with out love, what does he become? A MONSTER. How can you expect one to love when he/she has never known love? How can you expect someone to have family values if they've never known what a family is?
 
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